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How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by codedokode »

defanor wrote: post #24
keithnz wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what I was wondering, it seems like a public admission of breaking the local laws ( as corrupt as those laws are.. ).

Is it illegal to bypass blocking in Iran? I know in some countries it's legal to bypass such blocks if you can, even if a government tries to block proxying as well.

In Russia there is no punishment for bypassing blocking. But if you publish information about bypassing or proxy server addresses, your site will be blocked too (but no punishment for you personally).

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by ALittleLight »

It seems like some of those obstacles are also opportunities. For example, the point about not being able to get a MasterCard or Visa and therefore not being able to use AWS makes me think there's probably an opportunity for a neat business renting out VMs to Iranians with whatever payment they can use.

Of course AWS does a lot more than just rent VMs, but it seems like a relatively straightforward part of the business to copy.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by RidingPegasus »

m0zg wrote: post #18
h0l0cube wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's working The last deal for de-nuclearization already worked, but it was inexplicably terminated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework

It's not "denuclearization" if you continue to enrich, retain all nuclear infrastructure, and if the deal expires after a few years. Parts of the "deal" were expected to expire as soon as in 2026.

Where do people get these talking points from?

Intelligence chiefs have testified in front of congress that Iran was following through with it's end of the deal. The US then unilaterally decided to tear up the treaty and put in economic sanctions based on nothing. It's almost as if they want Iran to build nuclear weapons. It's also putting pressure on Europe to pull out of banking and business ties that were built after the embargoes were ended.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/29/us/politics/kim-jong-trum...

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by emilsedgh »

ilaksh wrote: post #27

Its an ongoing war. Just without bullets. My concern is that people will see him mention things like censorship and for them that will justify an invasion that results in mass killing and destruction. Does anyone know exactly what sort of actual submission they are looking for from Iran? I really don't believe its about nuclear development. I hope that any Iranians who can get out will get out.

Iranian living in the U.S. here.

During Obama it was:

We will choke you to death unless you give up your nuclear ambitions.

Now it is:

We will choke you to death unless you shoot yourself in the head.

U.S. is bullying Iran right now and people are starving to death. All because of a partisan issue. Unbelievable.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by NullPrefix »

user5994461 wrote: post #22
smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Dear dev, Please disregard the message above. USA and Europe too are forbidding you to sell to Iran and a couple of countries. Google is doing you a favor by blocking traffic out of the box. If they didn't do it, you would most likely have to block it yourself. There are official documents listing items and services you're not allowed to provide with how many years of jails you're risking. Just because you don't know…

Outsourcing legal choices to google and others? In that case you better integrate real tightly with GCP so that nothing will work if GCP does not work. Or else...

Or else some Iranian, by accident, might find your endpoint that just happens to load. What then? You hope he does not rat out your company to the feds?

>Just because you don't know about them and don't care won't be worth squat as a defense when the police will come knocking on your company's doors.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by aaomidi »

user5994461 wrote: post #22
smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Dear dev, Please disregard the message above. USA and Europe too are forbidding you to sell to Iran and a couple of countries. Google is doing you a favor by blocking traffic out of the box. If they didn't do it, you would most likely have to block it yourself. There are official documents listing items and services you're not allowed to provide with how many years of jails you're risking. Just because you don't know…

What's wrong with you?

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by Thaxll »

smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Every US companies must block Iran, it's not Google it's everyone.

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/...

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Sanctions/Page...

630. Is the provision or delivery of goods or services to an Iranian counterparty after November 4, 2018 allowed?

The wind-down period has ended and the United States intends to fully enforce the sanctions that have come back into effect. The provision or delivery of goods or services and/or the extension of additional loans or credits to an Iranian counterparty after November 4, 2018 — even pursuant to written contracts or written agreements entered into prior to May 8, 2018 — may result in the imposition of U.S. sanctions unless such activities are exempt from regulation, authorized by OFAC, or otherwise not sanctionable.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by pm90 »

cm2187 wrote: post #25
h0l0cube wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's working The last deal for de-nuclearization already worked, but it was inexplicably terminated. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_nuclear_deal_framework

Explications: supporting war in Yemen, Al Assad, Hezbollah, etc.

Nope. There have been multiple reports that validate the claim that the deal was terminated by a combination of Trump's personal distate for a deal negotiated by his predecessor and a proliferation of Iran hawks in the Trump Administration.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by smnrchrds »

codedokode wrote: post #31
defanor wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it illegal to bypass blocking in Iran? I know in some countries it's legal to bypass such blocks if you can, even if a government tries to block proxying as well.

In Russia there is no punishment for bypassing blocking. But if you publish information about bypassing or proxy server addresses, your site will be blocked too (but no punishment for you personally).

The same is generally true in Iran based on my experience.

Re: How is it like to be a dev in Iran

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Post by devoply »

Thaxll wrote: post #37
smnrchrds wrote: post #6

Dear devs, Please stop using Google Cloud Platform to host your projects. GCP blocks Iran, so by hosting any part of the app on GCP, your apps become impossible to access from Iran. Azure and AWS do not do this. This form of blocking is exclusive to GCP. After the switch to GCP, Iranians lost access to gitlab. Firefox Monitor is blocked in Iran for the same reason. The list goes on and on. I don't believe Mozilla tea…

Every US companies must block Iran, it's not Google it's everyone. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/... https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Sanctions/Page... 630. Is the provision or delivery of goods or services to an Iranian counterparty after November 4, 2018 allowed? The wind-down period has ended and the United States intends to fully enforce the sanctions that have come back…

Canada too.
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