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‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

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Re: ‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

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His recent chat with Joe Rogan was interesting. No idea how much I agree with, but it was undeniably interesting. http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/eric-weinstein-3

Any TL;DR, or at least why you found it particularly interesting?

Re: ‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

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Re: The stagnation of Science and Technology. We've seen such stagnations before in history. Our culture has been losing the idea of science as a process of increasing understanding through inquiry. As expressed by the mass of people, the culture has been going towards a cargo cult worship of science. Western culture once enshrined the erroneous conclusions of Aristotle, instead of engaging in his act of inquiry. Re:…

The real problem isn't the stagnation of science and technology (in most cases - notable exceptions are maybe healthcare and the climate). The more imminent problem is the economic implication of the embedded growth obligations. And the even higher level problem is that of generations making future obligations they can't meet and don't know about it. A kind of indeterminate optimism.

I noticed you downvoted my comment for no specific reason, do you disagree with something I wrote? Or do you misunderstand some part of it? If so I'd be happy to debate/explain it. Thiel himself alludes to this being the mechanism of how stagnation becomes a problem in the podcast, so the source of your discontent is quite unexpected.

Re: ‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

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Thanks for sharing! I'll give it a listen on my long commute. Generally speaking, I find the 'intellectual dark web' to be a bit repetitive - they seem to have their talking points and they just keep hitting on the same things. It'll be interesting to see how this podcast develops.

Yeah personally I think Eric Weinstein has bought into the idea a bit too much and it is boring to listen to the same thing over and over, but when he talks about other things it is pretty interesting. Hopefully he is able to branch out with guests. I'm not sure I'll like Thiel much, I've found recently that the more I hear him talk the less I like him, and I think his political views are pretty bad, but I'm sure he'…

I've listened to all but the last 20 minutes of the podcast now. Thiel I find interesting and his ideas provocative even when I don't agree with him on some points. Weinstein I didn't find very interesting at all. He appears (at least in this interview) to just be trading on his association with Thiel. I have also previously found his labeling of 'the intellectual dark web' pretentious and the composition of the group suspect, including charlatans (to use Taleb's word) such as Pinker, Harris, Shermer, Peterson and Molyneux. I won't be listening to future episodes; Thiel was the attraction here.

Re: ‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

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I tried to summarise the ideas discussed in the podcast (Full summary at https://medium.com/@rishdotblog/peter-theil-and-eric-weinste... ): 1. Innovation has continued and accelerated in the world of bits, but has plateaued in the world of stuff 2. If you go to a room and get rid of all the screens, how do you know you’re not in 1979? 3. Since the Great Depression, we’ve been managing economic metrics. But the techno…

> 2. Vape!

Re: ‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real problem isn't the stagnation of science and technology (in most cases - notable exceptions are maybe healthcare and the climate). The more imminent problem is the economic implication of the embedded growth obligations. And the even higher level problem is that of generations making future obligations they can't meet and don't know about it. A kind of indeterminate optimism.

I noticed you downvoted my comment for no specific reason, do you disagree with something I wrote? Or do you misunderstand some part of it? If so I'd be happy to debate/explain it. Thiel himself alludes to this being the mechanism of how stagnation becomes a problem in the podcast, so the source of your discontent is quite unexpected.

I did not downvote your comment.

Re: ‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

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post #15

I'm wondering if main reason for tech stagnation is globalization.If you can increase your profits from cutting cost by transferring work to China why should you concentrate on increasing productivity?

Well, it mostly just makes products cheaper. Also, sites like amazon can be linked to the current low inflation due it`s ability for users to price guage efficently.

Re: ‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

#38
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah personally I think Eric Weinstein has bought into the idea a bit too much and it is boring to listen to the same thing over and over, but when he talks about other things it is pretty interesting. Hopefully he is able to branch out with guests. I'm not sure I'll like Thiel much, I've found recently that the more I hear him talk the less I like him, and I think his political views are pretty bad, but I'm sure he'…

I've listened to all but the last 20 minutes of the podcast now. Thiel I find interesting and his ideas provocative even when I don't agree with him on some points. Weinstein I didn't find very interesting at all. He appears (at least in this interview) to just be trading on his association with Thiel. I have also previously found his labeling of 'the intellectual dark web' pretentious and the composition of the grou…

I disagree that Pinker, Harris, and Peterson are just pretentious charlatans. I do agree that Weinstein wasn't particularly interesting in this podcast. I agreed with Thiel's evaluation of our current technology and culture situation and found him to be quite interesting to listen to. Weinstein didn't really dig deep at all on Thiel's specific politics, which are more where I diverge from Thiel, despite this being a pretty long podcast episode. Hopefully get ups his interviewing game and doesn't just turn into a Dave Rubin 2.0 where he asks softball questions and lets the guest dodge controversial topics or steer the conversation however they want, and just focuses on the same tired topic every time.

Re: ‎The Portal: Peter Thiel (Eric Weinstein Podcast)

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post #28

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Ah, yes. Blindly dismissing ideas you disagree with. That’s how we improve political discord.

Ah yes, we should all improve political discord with these fine individuals: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/ce59uh/prosecutio...

What does that have to do with Thiel?
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