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Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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As others stated, the submitted title of "Ad-Free Internet by Firefox" overstates what this actually is: pay $4.99/month for ad-free experience on a handful of media publishers' websites[1]. (I.e. it's not a universal ad blocker that lets you avoid ads on Youtube.) The Firefox webpage itself doesn't oversell the feature as "ad-free internet" so not sure why writing a misleading title for HN was necessary. [1] https:/…

It's surely fair to use the page title as the HN link title.

In fact the official guidelines here actually urge people to do so.

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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post #15

This looks like it's a bundling of Scroll into Firefox, probably with different UX. It seems dishonest to me if you're gonna say "Ad-Free Internet" and "We share your payment directly with the sites you read" and really only do that for 12 domains. The internet is much bigger than that. Find a way to do this for ALL sites!

To be fair to them, they have to start somewhere. If they had to get every single site on the internet onboard as a prerequisite (as you seem to be suggesting) they'd never launch anything.

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not perfect, but I'd rather trust mozilla than google.

I'm the other way, google is probably the best company in my lifetime. Its recent Apple exploit 0day, I'm a bit skeptical of the programming. Google has the resources to make better products.

> Google has the resources to make better products.

True but for the past 5 years or so they have been interested in making more money not better products.

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's surely fair to use the page title as the HN link title.

In fact the official guidelines here actually urge people to do so.

Yes but the HN guidelines also lets the submitter use some judgement if the title is misleading:

>Otherwise please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

But I'm not going to nitpick this thread's title. If "Ad-free internet" is the best representation for HN readers because Mozilla itself used it, that's fine too.

Re: Partnering with publishers for a better journalism experience

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I got the following when I tried the link to subscribe: Thank you for your interest in Firefox Ad-free Internet! This product isn't available yet, but we're working on it. Would you please click the Next button to take a short survey to tell us what you think? At the end of the survey we'll get your (optional!) e-mail address so that we can let you know when the Firefox Ad-free Internet beta launches. If you don't wa…

If you skip the survey you end up on scroll.com:

> Thank you for participating in this survey! We would like to invite you to a free trial of Firefox Ad-free Internet, a name we used in this survey for a partnership with our friends at Scroll. You can sign up today at www.scroll.com Thank you very much for helping to make the internet a better place!

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