Why so many problems at Google lately? Calendar down two weeks ago[0], and Google Cloud had a larger outage a month ago[1] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20213092 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20077421
Regression to the mean.
Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1
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Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1
#32Why so many problems at Google lately? Calendar down two weeks ago[0], and Google Cloud had a larger outage a month ago[1] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20213092 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20077421
unrelated. very big company with thousands of products that don't suffer outages. two incidents doesn't make a pattern.
So you are making a case for smaller companies run by different people in different ways? So that we don't have huge outages with common systems shared across entire platforms misbehave?
When you really care about high availability and security you really don't want all your systems run with the same software, hardware, and coded by the same teams.
What does google (or amazon/msft) do to ensure a software echo chambers are not made within their infrastructure that potentially could cause mass scale outages by way of the same bug or bugs propagating through their systems?
GCP, AWS, and Azure is the grate decentralization of the internet.
Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1
#33Bad config push again?
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#34Bad config push again?
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#35Why so many problems at Google lately? Calendar down two weeks ago[0], and Google Cloud had a larger outage a month ago[1] [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20213092 [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20077421
unrelated. very big company with thousands of products that don't suffer outages. two incidents doesn't make a pattern.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would argue that two direct Google Cloud outages within a month is pretty concerning for GCP customers, and that it's possible that the calendar outage could also be related in someway since it is likely hosted on GCP, although that is speculation
Doubt Calendar is hosted on GCP. Generally Google does not run first-party systems on GCP, instead putting them on Borg (internal cloud).
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#37What's the actual number of 9s for the major cloud services these days? My impression from their PR seems to mismatch the number of outages and issues lately.
I don't think there is any mismatch, it was always three nines. I guess the only mismatch is in claims that three nines is enough to not be noticeable or annoying to people.
Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1
#38In a moment that's likely to be very, very frustrating for a large number of you that have businesses and customers that depend on G cloud, let's try to remember that somewhere there's an engineer or an SRE having a really hard day just trying to fix things. Please, be kind and decent to each other, especially when things are hard.
I don't follow comments like these, should people refrain from criticising giant companies because there are people working at them? I don't understand the purpose of this comment
It makes even less sense when you take into consideration that people are paying for this service.
If you're a paying customer, you should be free to criticize as you damn well please.
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#39In a moment that's likely to be very, very frustrating for a large number of you that have businesses and customers that depend on G cloud, let's try to remember that somewhere there's an engineer or an SRE having a really hard day just trying to fix things. Please, be kind and decent to each other, especially when things are hard.
I don't follow comments like these, should people refrain from criticising giant companies because there are people working at them? I don't understand the purpose of this comment
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Re: Google Cloud networking issues in us-east1
#40In a moment that's likely to be very, very frustrating for a large number of you that have businesses and customers that depend on G cloud, let's try to remember that somewhere there's an engineer or an SRE having a really hard day just trying to fix things. Please, be kind and decent to each other, especially when things are hard.
I don't follow comments like these, should people refrain from criticising giant companies because there are people working at them? I don't understand the purpose of this comment
It's really quite simple. It's a reminder to be respectful to the individuals taking part in this on Google's side. Are you following now?