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Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by wmil »

UncleMeat wrote: post #20
jeromic wrote: post #16

Google has removed the original video from youtube over a "privacy claim" and have disabled responses on this medium post. It makes it hard to give Google the benefit of the doubt when their stance seems to be "stop talking about it", instead of addressing the content of the video.

Given that she has already gotten threatening messages, that seems like a reasonable response. The primary responsibility should be to the safety of the employee.

They did the same thing for the Pinterest video.

It's kind of disturbing because there's a clear two tier pattern emerging.

People with tech connections can take down videos that name them, even if the videos are legitimately news worthy.

Meanwhile CNN hunts down and doxes people who post memes without tech companies doing anything.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by guilhas »

malvosenior wrote: post #24
dmode wrote: post #17

Project Veritas is truly some bottom of barrel garbage, probably worse than Alex Jones.

Yet here they are breaking an important story. Do you have a comment on the actual content of their report?

Important story that no other main news source is reporting.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by vetinari »

guilhas wrote: post #32
malvosenior wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet here they are breaking an important story. Do you have a comment on the actual content of their report?

Important story that no other main news source is reporting.

That begs another question: why?

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by tropo »

vetinari wrote: post #33
guilhas wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Important story that no other main news source is reporting.

That begs another question: why?

Sheer terror would explain it.

All those news sources have come to depend on Google. They hate it, but they can't fight it. News revenue is way down in this Google world, with viewers passing by whenever Google deems it best.

Any news source that opposes Google is at risk of getting blacklisted and they know it. You might find a bit of coverage on sites that are already blacklisted, like Breitbart. Nobody else would dare anger Google.

I'm sure that most news sources would love to see Google get hurt, but going after Google is like going after the king: you'd better not miss.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by tropo »

jjeaff wrote: post #21
mrosett wrote: post #10

I'm no fan of James O'Keefe, but some of the direct quotes are much more incriminating than this response makes them out to be: > “Elizabeth Warren is saying we should break up Google. And like, I love her but she’s very misguided, like that will not make it better it will make it worse, because all these smaller companies who don’t have the same resources that we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump sit…

It doesn't seem incriminating at all. When she says "the Trump situation" in this context it seems clear she is talking about making sure that foreign and otherwise nefarious actors are not able to game search results and the ad system to spread disinformation. Which is what happened in the last election.

That will always happen, but what is the significance? Trump himself spent six or seven hundred million dollars, and Clinton spent about double that. Where is the evidence that any "foreign and otherwise nefarious actors" did even 1% of that?

It makes no sense to get riled up over numbers that would be rounded to zero.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by diydsp »

jjeaff wrote: post #21
mrosett wrote: post #10

I'm no fan of James O'Keefe, but some of the direct quotes are much more incriminating than this response makes them out to be: > “Elizabeth Warren is saying we should break up Google. And like, I love her but she’s very misguided, like that will not make it better it will make it worse, because all these smaller companies who don’t have the same resources that we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump sit…

It doesn't seem incriminating at all. When she says "the Trump situation" in this context it seems clear she is talking about making sure that foreign and otherwise nefarious actors are not able to game search results and the ad system to spread disinformation. Which is what happened in the last election.

Exactly. It's a shorthand. Not a huge fan of google or Trump, but it's just like when he said the "moon" was part of "Mars" the other day. They're part of the same program, obv not the same binary system...

I think delusions like this persist because 1. ppl aren't used to communication on that bureaucratic shorthand. 2. it makes it seem easy like they really nailed someone.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by vetinari »

tropo wrote: post #34
vetinari wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That begs another question: why?

Sheer terror would explain it. All those news sources have come to depend on Google. They hate it, but they can't fight it. News revenue is way down in this Google world, with viewers passing by whenever Google deems it best. Any news source that opposes Google is at risk of getting blacklisted and they know it. You might find a bit of coverage on sites that are already blacklisted, like Breitbart. Nobody else would…

That could explain a part, but not the entire phenomenon.

Fear is a negative emotion, but is quite visible to those who are under it, and they would try to get rid of it.

But the journalists (ok, let's them call so for now) do not seem to be driven by fear. The media owners might be, but the journalists aren't. They have a positive emotion, they want to do thing the way are being done; they seem to be driven by shared ideology of progressive liberalism (see twitter for blue checkmark social bubble). They believe they are doing the right thing, even if it means being silent about some wrongdoing. The end justifies the means, and talking about some issues would be like helping to the enemy. Nobody wants Trump in 2020 again, right?

That's why you are seeing dissent only in media, that are not progressive. And they happen to fall outside main media sources by definition.

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by cannedslime »

guilhas wrote: post #32
malvosenior wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet here they are breaking an important story. Do you have a comment on the actual content of their report?

Important story that no other main news source is reporting.

And why is that exactly?

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by cannedslime »

What a lame excuse to be completely honest. The Project Veritas video clearly isn't edited like she claims it is, she is downright admitting to redefine what "fairness" means so it is the opposite. The video clearly shows creepy slides on how google plans to "program" humans, condition them to a certain political viewpoint, even if they have to censor truth...

Just split up google at this point...

Re: Google exec responds to Project Veritas video about bias

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Post by matchbok »

malvosenior wrote: post #24
dmode wrote: post #17

Project Veritas is truly some bottom of barrel garbage, probably worse than Alex Jones.

Yet here they are breaking an important story. Do you have a comment on the actual content of their report?

Yeah, no. Every single one of their "stories" has be debunked. Every. Single. One.

They are trash and so are people who view them as reputable reporters. If that's you, sorry.

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