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16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Post by spiderfarmer »

spookybones wrote: post #13
spiderfarmer wrote: post #9

It will hopefully contain a lot of features people asked for like a better keyboard, Face ID, more connectivity, etc. And just like the Mac Pro the starting price will probably be enormous, I wouldn't be surprised if the base model is $2.5K or more. And I wouldn't have problem with that at all. My 2015 Macbook Pro has been worth every penny. I used it every day and it's still going strong. Before I bought this MBP I…

Same. I bought and returned a few PCs, including a couple of Surface Pros. I actually like the feel of the new Macbook Pro keyboard, but I'm running into too many friends with missing or stuck keys. I'm still using my 2012 retina, and it has lasted an amazingly long time. I want that kind of craftsmanship. I also, like most, really do not like the touch bar.

As for modern Windows machines, I bought a Surface Laptop for my wife and that machine holds up pretty good. But she does not use it every day like I do and only uses it for browsing, Office and remote desktopping to her work environment.

Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Post by asdkhadsj »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #9

It will hopefully contain a lot of features people asked for like a better keyboard, Face ID, more connectivity, etc. And just like the Mac Pro the starting price will probably be enormous, I wouldn't be surprised if the base model is $2.5K or more. And I wouldn't have problem with that at all. My 2015 Macbook Pro has been worth every penny. I used it every day and it's still going strong. Before I bought this MBP I…

I'm actually switching back to Linux. Partially because of the issues you cite, I too love my 2015 MBP - where as I don't use my bigger 2017 MBP as a laptop (it's basically a desktop for me).

The bigger issue for me though is price. I love my 2015 not only because the keyboard is great, but because the price was good (it's a cheaper model). I can take it outside and not fear losing $2k-$4k. My bigger MBP is just over 3 grand, which is a lot to lose due to sea air, outside dirt, etc.

Sure, I could probably buy a cheaper 2019 MBP if they're quality and feel good about going outside, but I want power too. The price just doesn't seem worth it these days. If I go Linux, I can get a powerhouse for the same price as the lower end MBPs it seems (though I've not done rigorous comparisons yet). I want cheap and powerful.. and it just seems impossible to do that with Apple.

Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Post by d-sc »

Waterluvian wrote: post #11
dasil003 wrote: post #8

If there’s no escape key and inverted-T arrow keys I’m cutting my losses and jumping to Linux after 30 years as a Mac owner.

I'm curious what losses there are to be cut? Isn't it as simple as just buying a different product and using that instead? It's not like my kitchen only fits Whirlpool or my garage only fits Honda.

For me, these are non trivial to replace on Linux or windows: 3 years of randomly generated passwords conveniently stored, a purchased movie collection on iTunes, tab syncing between phone and laptop, touchId login, and probably most importantly iMessage sync between laptop and phone.

Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Post by seanalltogether »

geophile wrote: post #2

To be at all interesting, this would have to have a good keyboard (as in the 2015 MBP), and an optional touchbar.

I would like to have my "pro" ports back, standard usb3 alongside usbc, magnetic power plug, possibly an hdmi port. I've used the hdmi countless times over the years in unexpected situations but I guess carrying an adapter around would be ok.

Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Post by LoudogUno »

spookybones wrote: post #13
spiderfarmer wrote: post #9

It will hopefully contain a lot of features people asked for like a better keyboard, Face ID, more connectivity, etc. And just like the Mac Pro the starting price will probably be enormous, I wouldn't be surprised if the base model is $2.5K or more. And I wouldn't have problem with that at all. My 2015 Macbook Pro has been worth every penny. I used it every day and it's still going strong. Before I bought this MBP I…

Same. I bought and returned a few PCs, including a couple of Surface Pros. I actually like the feel of the new Macbook Pro keyboard, but I'm running into too many friends with missing or stuck keys. I'm still using my 2012 retina, and it has lasted an amazingly long time. I want that kind of craftsmanship. I also, like most, really do not like the touch bar.

Currently still on my maxed out late 2013 15" retina with 2.3 Ghz 16GB RAM 512GB SSD. The trackpad has ceased to work but it has come to rest on my desk with dedicated monitors, keyboard and mouse. Easily the most important enjoyable inanimate object in my life that. Oh, and still have my early 2010 15" MBP to troubleshoot, run Windows, and as a backup in case this one is out of commission for an extended period of time which has only happened once. Really appreciate the feeling that when I buy my next one I'll be able to rely on it for over half a decade.

Still haven't warmed up to the keyboard and seemingly useless touchpad (although I'm sure I could find fun ways to use it)

Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Post by nextos »

asdkhadsj wrote: post #32
spiderfarmer wrote: post #9

It will hopefully contain a lot of features people asked for like a better keyboard, Face ID, more connectivity, etc. And just like the Mac Pro the starting price will probably be enormous, I wouldn't be surprised if the base model is $2.5K or more. And I wouldn't have problem with that at all. My 2015 Macbook Pro has been worth every penny. I used it every day and it's still going strong. Before I bought this MBP I…

I'm actually switching back to Linux. Partially because of the issues you cite, I too love my 2015 MBP - where as I don't use my bigger 2017 MBP as a laptop (it's basically a desktop for me). The bigger issue for me though is price. I love my 2015 not only because the keyboard is great, but because the price was good (it's a cheaper model) . I can take it outside and not fear losing $2k-$4k. My bigger MBP is just ove…

I switched to Linux from Mac back in 2009.

While I enjoy the freedom and lately the niceties of NixOS, there are a few things I miss about Apple. Especially hardware.

It sounds crazy, but some Macs were among the best Linux laptops. MacBook Air 11 (Late 12) used by Linus himself. That's my main machine too. Silent, pure Intel, flawless. Other Macs were really nice too. E.g. MacBook 2.1. Great keyboard, and supported by Coreboot. Not so much lately sadly, with non-USB input devices, secure boot and bad keyboards.

People talk about Thinkpads, which are good, but you need to cherry-pick a lot. Some models are quite noisy for example. Outside Thinkpads, it's hit and miss. Currently, I like Surface Go and Xiaomi Mi Air 12. Most other laptop options are not good. Desktops are a completely different business.

Buying from Apple is always very reliable and easy. Pay and go. Everything is fine. Guarantees across borders are fine. Getting keyboards from different locales is fine. With other brands, not so much. I feel that Apple is focused on less products, and this really makes a difference in terms of quality and user experience.

Lately, I was trying to get a US ANSI keyboard in the UK, and the only option that worked was buying a Magic Keyboard (which has really nice latency).

Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Post by mackey »

cs02rm0 wrote: post #22
mackey wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what its worth, I just picked up the latest gen and the keyboard seems like a real improvement in both feel and noise. The Touch Bar still sucks, but I am happy with the keyboard.

I've got one of the latest ones too, I still think it sucks more than the 2015 ones. I used to keep them on my desk partly as screen estate, now keep the lid closed, leave it under the desk and use a bluetooth keyboard in the hope it'll survive.

It's definitely different than 2015 so if you require more key travel, it won't be for you. But I am pretty happy with it.

Re: 16-Inch MacBook Pro Said to Launch in September

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Post by cgriswald »

a012 wrote: post #21
madoublet wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With the addition of iOS apps, would it be too much to ask for a touchscreen?

Do you ever consider ipad pro?

Even as a (former) heavy iPad Pro user, I don't think the iPad Pro is a viable replacement for a MBP with touchscreen.

My ideal MBP has a touch screen, no touch bar, the old smaller trackpad, and better keyboard, in a form factor something like a Surface Pro.

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