Forrst v3 Launched Today • Hacker News Board

Re: Forrst v3 Launched Today

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Post by zalew » Mon, Dec 20, 2010, 9:36 PM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #7

I've been a member of Forrst for a while and my enthusiasm has taken a nose dive in a past couple of months. The main problem is not the site design. It is the fact that Forrst is overrun with kids. "I am an aspiring 13 old designer, and here is something I did in a couple of hours because I was bored". That's not to say that are no gems in the feed, but these are typically cross-posts from Dribbble. Trying to build…

yeah, I've been there a few times and every time I search for topics of my interest I see people bragging about stuff I don't even note in the commit message. meh. I mean, there are probably lots of professionals, but the environment and kiddie community encourages posting lots of minor stuff.

Re: Forrst v3 Launched Today

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Dec 20, 2010, 11:21 PM UTC

kylebragger wrote: post #11

huhtenberg wrote: post #7

I've been a member of Forrst for a while and my enthusiasm has taken a nose dive in a past couple of months. The main problem is not the site design. It is the fact that Forrst is overrun with kids. "I am an aspiring 13 old designer, and here is something I did in a couple of hours because I was bored". That's not to say that are no gems in the feed, but these are typically cross-posts from Dribbble. Trying to build…

I disagree that it has very little appeal, though it certainly has a more narrow focus in terms of to whom it does appeal. The type of post you mention is something we have been concerned about and working towards resolving. At the end of the day, I think Forrst can and does provide real value to professional designers and developers, but perhaps that is not able to shine through as much when such posts exist.

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Re: Forrst v3 Launched Today

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Post by petercooper » Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 2:05 AM UTC

steveklabnik wrote: post #25

citricsquid wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always felt that the real good people don't have time for these secretive communities, they'd rather be doing shit so you'll always have the middle ground between mediocre and amazing. I'm sure the "best" (with regards to what they do) hackernews members rarely (if ever) comment because they're too busy being the best, you don't get to the top by talking about it.

This is sometimes true, sometimes not. I know a few amazing designers that are on Dribble all the time, because it's an outlet for fun things they're making that have nothing to do with client work. By the same token, if you check out /leaders, lots of people at the top _are_ killing it. There are obviously tons of successful people that aren't on HN, but "commenting on HN means you're unsuccessful," is trivially dis…

I know a few amazing designers that are on Dribble all the time, because it's an outlet for fun things they're making that have nothing to do with client work.

This is also true of GitHub. But both GitHub and Dribbble are places where you show off evidence of your work. HN is more a talking shop.

Re: Forrst v3 Launched Today

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Post by martin_sunset » Tue, Dec 21, 2010, 7:57 AM UTC

code_duck wrote: post #20

steveklabnik wrote: post #2

I'm interested to see how buying acorns works. It's sort of like a combination of virtual goods and advertising... I see programmers as being a hard crowd to sell to, (for example, see the second paragraph of this recent comment by patio11: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2018880 ) but maybe I'm wrong...

I'm interested in seeing how it works out, too. I'm not sure what the motivation is to pay to promote the types of content you can post on Forrst, other than job ads. I guess I'll have to watch and see what people are using it for.

For me it's about promoting my site when it's ready for the next beta phase. The stream is great, but you don't get that much exposure as normal posts are pushed down fast.

Re: Forrst v3 Launched Today

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Post by rwhitman » Thu, Dec 23, 2010, 1:32 AM UTC

huhtenberg wrote: post #7

I've been a member of Forrst for a while and my enthusiasm has taken a nose dive in a past couple of months. The main problem is not the site design. It is the fact that Forrst is overrun with kids. "I am an aspiring 13 old designer, and here is something I did in a couple of hours because I was bored". That's not to say that are no gems in the feed, but these are typically cross-posts from Dribbble. Trying to build…

I will agree with this on some level. Teenagers are a known community cancer. Left unchecked, they will turn any board into 4chan.

I don't think there is an uncontrollable flow of noobs on Forrst though. For the most part its follow-based anyhow, you don't like someone you unfollow them.

However I have noticed posts where highschool kids are specifically encouraged to participate, and while a really noble gesture to foster education amongst a new generation (and cheap labor pool), its a dangerous move. More kids = lower quality and more moderation.