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Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements

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Re: Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements

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you can pretty easily whitelist those sites.

Pi-Hole is a very simple DNS based blocker. You can not whitelist ad providers on a origin basis.

They didn't say whitelist ad providers, they said sites. Which you can do with pi-hole.

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With all the fervor around ad-blocking what I fail to see is how do you propose those sites that you visit, read their content to make money ? Are you willing to pay every site you visit or encourage them to put up pay walls ??

I don't have to care about if they make money or not. That's not my business. If they want to make money, they'll shift to other profit models that don't involve intrusive tracking and annoying advertisements.

would you support paywalls ?

Re: Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements

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With all the fervor around ad-blocking what I fail to see is how do you propose those sites that you visit, read their content to make money ? Are you willing to pay every site you visit or encourage them to put up pay walls ??

Have ads that relate to content, not to visitor. Like it was back in the days. When I visit a sci-fi site I'd like to see ads for sci-fi movies, books and paraphernalia. Not an ad for a pair of shoes I happened to search a week ago. Profiling is spooky and it's an offend to privacy. Not to mention that it doesn't work that well. Just because I search something on Google doesn't mean it's the only thing I'm interested in buying.

Re: Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements

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With all the fervor around ad-blocking what I fail to see is how do you propose those sites that you visit, read their content to make money ? Are you willing to pay every site you visit or encourage them to put up pay walls ??

What's wrong with the "old" way, where you visit a Mopar automotive related website and saw Mopar car part ads? Or when you visit a computer magazine and saw ads for computer parts? Or when you went to NYT and saw basic shit like paper towels and fall fashion?

It became a problem when everyone and their sister started needing to know what kinds of kinks I'm into just to sell me dish detergent.

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Pi-hole is my most prized addition to my connected home. It was simple to set up, easy to manage, and easy to access for whitelisting. Now, all of my devices throughout my network benefit from the service, as opposed to relying on locally installed solutions. If you aren't using it, you should!

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Re: Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements

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With all the fervor around ad-blocking what I fail to see is how do you propose those sites that you visit, read their content to make money ? Are you willing to pay every site you visit or encourage them to put up pay walls ??

What's wrong with the "old" way, where you visit a Mopar automotive related website and saw Mopar car part ads? Or when you visit a computer magazine and saw ads for computer parts? Or when you went to NYT and saw basic shit like paper towels and fall fashion? It became a problem when everyone and their sister started needing to know what kinds of kinks I'm into just to sell me dish detergent.

This is hilariously accurate.

I've been predicting for a while now that sites would fall back to the old television show model "RockAuto presents MustangForums.com" or something to that effect.

Instead, we get a dancing Albert Einstein begging us to take IQ tests.

Re: Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements

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With all the fervor around ad-blocking what I fail to see is how do you propose those sites that you visit, read their content to make money ? Are you willing to pay every site you visit or encourage them to put up pay walls ??

Few of the important things on the Web are spyvertising-supported, or wouldn't promptly be replaced by something community-driven and free if they went away or became paid-only (stackoverflow, for instance). It's mostly junk.

[EDIT] to expand, I think the piles of spyvertising money funding sites & services is a big part of the decline of truly free sites and open protocols, and make running a paid site (or app, or whatever) harder since you're competing with "free" (but spying on you). Less incentive to use them, less incentive to contribute to them. The whole system's perverse and harmful and it would 100% not be the end of the world, or the end of nice things for free/cheap, if it just disappeared tomorrow.

Re: Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements

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How would a web browser know which DNS it's using? You set your DNS preference to point to the PI-hole and it should behave like any other DNS server. I guess it could attempt to resolve some spam domain like doubleclick.net and if it was incorrect it could complain...

There is a clear and definite trend of taking DNS out of the user's control, see all the hype with DNS over HTTPS etc etc. Firefox is working on using DoH (opt-in at the beginning, but who knows) from "select" providers. Chrome has a similar switch, surely. Same with Android 9, opt-in DoH, but maybe it'll become opt-out or no-opt in the future. In the name of privacy and security of course, but with the totally unint…

> There is a clear and definite trend of taking DNS out of the user's control, see all the hype with DNS over HTTPS etc etc.

It seems absurd that these companies are blurring the line between software and malware.

Software vendors are going to have to start paying for the bandwidth they use on networks against the will of the network operator.

Re: Pi-hole: A black hole for Internet advertisements

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I love pi-hole. It's very passive and easy to use. My only issue was when the pi hosting it went down for whatever reason and I didn't know immediately, so I thought my ISP connection went down. I just had to restart the pi to get it going again. It's only happened once in around 6 months. And it's running on one of my older pi!
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