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Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by paulcole »

> For example, about 20 million people tuned in to watch the first episode of the latest season of hit show Game of Thrones.

> It was one of the most-watched non-sporting events in TV history.

This is not even close to true.

Nearly 17 million people watched the Murder She Wrote finale in 1996. In the 1970s, each year, the highest rated episodes of All In The Family were consistently over 20 million. Seinfeld had 35 million once. 60 minutes has gone over 20 million many times.

Grace Under Fire, a mediocre sitcom most people here have never heard of, averaged about 20 million viewers for a full season in the mid 1990s.

I love when TV writers act like TV didn’t exist before The Sopranos.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_watched_televis...

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by marktangotango »

agent00f wrote: post #4

These are $10/month subs which are akin to channel packages. Just because some will also sub to the Disney chan package doesn't mean they'll drop Netflix. Would surprise no one if the author were shorting Netflix.

Maybe not shorting Netflix, but a long bet on Disney?

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by chaostheory »

rayiner wrote: post #22
berbec wrote: post #11

Disney bought the rest of Hulu. They currently have full control and will have 100% ownership in a few years. We're getting to the point where you don't spend 10 minutes flipping channels; you spend 10 minutes checking different streaming apps. And the monthly spend is approaching parity. I spend $75 on streaming services a month.

That’s not really a fair comparison, though. $75 per month didn’t buy you access to tons of on-demand movies back in the day.

It’s not a fair comparison. Let’s not forget - no commercials

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by cududa »

jayalpha wrote: post #18

Time to buy piratebay.org call options. Sometimes it is not a zero sum game. People won't sign up for Netflix. And Hulu. And Disney. And HBO. And Youtube. And... But netflix going belly up would be a shame. I need the next seasons of "alternated carbon"!

What you just described, minus YouTube is $40 a month. That’s really not that difficult for a lot of people, compared to how much cable use to cost, plus add ons. I already pay for Hulu, Netflix, and HBO, and I don’t mind paying another $7 for Disney+

Content isn’t free, and makers deserve to get paid.

Edit with sourcing: 64% of households making less than $15k have cable. https://www.eia.gov/consumption/residential/data/2001/applia...

The lowest cable packages across the country are $22.57 https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/05/cut-your-ca...

Signing up for Hulu and Disney+ will give you all the content you’re looking for in the same price envelope sub $15k households are already willing to pay.

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Post by zuron7 »

berbec wrote: post #11

Disney bought the rest of Hulu. They currently have full control and will have 100% ownership in a few years. We're getting to the point where you don't spend 10 minutes flipping channels; you spend 10 minutes checking different streaming apps. And the monthly spend is approaching parity. I spend $75 on streaming services a month.

Why not loop through different streaming services through the year? Have only a single subscription at a time. The friction to sign up for a streaming service is minimal compared to getting a new cable connection. Of course, this would require that one be willing to wait to watch the latest episode of a show.

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Post by cududa »

gremlinsinc wrote: post #19
mjrow wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone who doesn't want to pay 6 subscriptions, I guess.

if Netflix were smart they'd try to push a network package deal -- where you can signup for disney, hbo, amazon, through netflix and they take $2 or something off each subscription as incentive, users get single billing for all streaming, you'd pay the normal price or maybe get $5 off if you buy all networks for like $50 or $60. disney, hbo, amazon still get their $$ but Netflix makes some off the top, could be all t…

That’s literally what Apple TV’s strategy is

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Post by jaimebuelta »

A little bit apocalyptic...

Netflix could loose half of their subscribers, take a massive hit, and still survive... guess that the press love the “X company is doomed!” approach...

Disney entering the streaming area is pretty big, but they still have solid roots in cinema areas. They can’t premiere the next Star Wars movie in streaming without cannibalising it’s ticket sales. Maybe they’ll obliterate other companies, maybe they’ll be successful alongside other players, or maybe it will be a bad move. We don’t know yet. It looks like an interesting offering right now, and probably will be successful, but I don’t get why they need to be so bombastic in their analysis...

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by mikeash »

rayiner wrote: post #28

I don’t understand why so many people think this is a bad thing. Content distribution has become a commodity, thanks to AWS and the like. The codecs and whatnot are all standardized. And it turns out that consumers don’t really care about recommendation systems and similar accouterments. So the competition has shifted to the thing that people care about: content. When the market is competing over the thing people car…

It’s annoying as a user to juggle subscriptions. If I want to watch something, I have to figure out where it’s available, sign up if I don’t currently have a subscription, worry about forgetting services and having a bunch of monthly payments I’m not using. End result: I watch a lot of YouTube and pretty much gave up on the rest.

Contrast with music, where I have a single subscription and get access to everything I want without having to think about it. The question of what I want to listen to is separate from the question of what service I want to use. I can pick a service based on price and features instead of juggling a bunch of different ones.

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Post by com2kid »

high_derivative wrote: post #5

This article has incredible annoying spacing (one sentence per paragraph). Is this meant to read like an unrolled Twitter thread? Content wise: I recently cancelled my Netflix again because despite a flood of new shows, all feel incredibly generic and formulaic. I like shows across genres, from teenage romance to sitcom to thriller, and I am looking forward to watching e.g. Narcos new season when it hits, there are a…

> I recently cancelled my Netflix again because despite a flood of new shows, all feel incredibly generic and formulaic.

Altered Carbon, Love Death Robots, Russian Doll, all recent standout Netflix originals.

Heck even their Anime is on point, and I am not the largest fan of Anime cliches. Castlevania was incredible, and Ultraman was above average.

Flavorful Origins is the best food show I've ever seen.

But then again, I only watch ~4-6 hours of TV a month, so a trickle of high quality content is just fine.

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Post by [deleted] »

rayiner wrote: post #22
berbec wrote: post #11

Disney bought the rest of Hulu. They currently have full control and will have 100% ownership in a few years. We're getting to the point where you don't spend 10 minutes flipping channels; you spend 10 minutes checking different streaming apps. And the monthly spend is approaching parity. I spend $75 on streaming services a month.

That’s not really a fair comparison, though. $75 per month didn’t buy you access to tons of on-demand movies back in the day.

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