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Facebook: Another three billion fake profiles culled

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Re: Facebook: Another three billion fake profiles culled

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Yes, let's go back to when only the press could lie.

Press can be made accountable for what it reports to a large extent, outright lies can be called out and the newspaper or whoever signs the byline can be sued in extreme cases. An anonymous fake news article has no risk or accountability for its author, that's the main difference.

When was the last time a journalist lost their jobs for printing blatantly false information?

Re: Facebook: Another three billion fake profiles culled

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During the recent Australian election there were a number of Facebook advertisements by political figures which were completely false e.g. Labor party imposing a death tax. And given that the election result was pretty close it could've easily have made a difference. So I couldn't care less whether Facebook culled 3 billion profiles or not. What I need is for Facebook to make the hard choice and stop allowing politic…

Even without political advertising, the amount of fake news spread in Groups in the form of memes and images is absolutely fracking staggering. If you go through the facebook feed of a conservative facebook user in their 50s+, you quite literally will see all lies and propaganda, and nothing real (for one ex: see the horribly faked Nancy Pelosi video that spread like wildfire yesterday, despite it's obvious fakeness)…

While I am definitely not a facebook fan, I think the problem lies somewhere else. Its a "dont shoot the messenger" problem. In my book, the problem is that people tend to believe shit. It doesnt really matter if the 50+ person got their fake news from facebook or from some other corner of the web. The issue is that people who are clearly not intelligent enought o tell fake news are eligible to vote.

Re: Facebook: Another three billion fake profiles culled

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Do you think any other platforms are doing better, or is all social media inherently doomed?

A favorite format on Reddit is for the entire submission to be a screenshot of tweet text (just the text), or tweet text caption and an image or article headline, possibly with no visible link to the source, not even a link to the tweet. Something you can just create in MS Paint. And 10k comments taking it for face value, getting riled up over a screenshot of some text. Often when you google the headline, you either…

This all sounds like a necessary outcome to how and why these things were designed.

Social media exists to give you that little shot of happiness.

What makes you feel happier than seeing that the whole world agrees with you (in the case of facebook full of bullshit and reddit's oh-so-happy circlejerk over nonsense)?

This is exactly what these platforms were designed to do. All of them. Hell, look at HN for example. Look at the echo chamber that the Assange article is turning into, with dissenting opinions being downvoted for some reason.

It's all of them. All of them. Every of the social media. I feel like there's something in there about human nature, but psychology and sociology aren't my specialty.

Re: Facebook: Another three billion fake profiles culled

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During the recent Australian election there were a number of Facebook advertisements by political figures which were completely false e.g. Labor party imposing a death tax. And given that the election result was pretty close it could've easily have made a difference. So I couldn't care less whether Facebook culled 3 billion profiles or not. What I need is for Facebook to make the hard choice and stop allowing politic…

> e.g. Labor party imposing a death tax.

This was advertised on Australian radio before the elections by other parties too, so it's not exclusive to Facebook.

(Source : Started listening to Gold 104.3 FM streamed because Christian O'Connell moved there and we missed his breakfast show!)

Re: Facebook: Another three billion fake profiles culled

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Facebook could be ~100% accurate at separating real and fake accounts if they exchanged data with the government to make sure that every user had a passport / social security number / other equivalent associated with their account. Is that the world we want to live in?

That would only be 100% accurate if the government approved ID was perfectly secure, and no one ever leaked databases of those personal details. Tens of millions of passport and social security numbers are already out in the wild.

How to make it secure? Estonian and Scandinavian countries have chip on them that a computer can read, but it's for doing gov and banking stuff. You can always fake a photo, they don't have much to compare it against to. At some point FB started to verify profiles actively, I didn't use my own name or took part of any political/marketing mumbo jumbo, but I quickly photoshopped an id with the fake name using a sample ID as a blueprint and the human moderator left me alone.

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Even without political advertising, the amount of fake news spread in Groups in the form of memes and images is absolutely fracking staggering. If you go through the facebook feed of a conservative facebook user in their 50s+, you quite literally will see all lies and propaganda, and nothing real (for one ex: see the horribly faked Nancy Pelosi video that spread like wildfire yesterday, despite it's obvious fakeness)…

Yes, let's go back to when only the press could lie.

With press, at least everyone is reading the same lies. Hyper-targeted fake news makes it impossible to discuss anything, because across groups, everyone has their own set of "facts", making people talk past each other.
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