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Who killed Olof Palme?

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Re: Who killed Olof Palme?

#31
I am not Swedish, and had not yet visited Sweden at the time, and yet somehow Palme‘s murder was shocking and memorable to me.

Perhaps it was that it was a blatant murder in a crowded public place, like something from James Bond. Or the murder of a major public figure, something that had seemingly gone out of fashion (I remember Lennon’s murder distinctly as well, but that was a loonie so somehow lacked the same significance to me).

So odd, since I knew nothing of Swedish politics and honestly couldn’t care less (though I knew who he was, an internationally famous politician).

So whenever his name surfaces I always check out the article. The 80s were weird, and seem weirder in retrospect.

Re: Who killed Olof Palme?

#32
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say so. The CIA and high ranking military officials certainly hated him and wanted him dead. There was a strong motive and there many inconsistencies in the way the case was handled afterwards. The majority of higher ranking CIA officials really considered JFK a traitor, because he didn't send air support at the bay of pigs (following through with what he had clearly stated all along). There were claims th…

But can a conspiracy of more than a very few people be kept under wraps for a lifetime? I find it hard to believe that if there really was a conspiracy that nothing concrete has emerged in all these years.

isn't that literally the job description for the cia?

for a more realistic view, see the interviews with LAPD people from the recent documentary on Bob Kenedy's assassination in LA.

it makes the case pretty clear, and show that people did talk. but that the good media, not wanting to promote conspiracy theories, silenced. The guy was pretty much boasting about his participation for decades and nobody cared.

Re: Who killed Olof Palme?

#33

Eh, the JFK assassination is more people wanting a conspiracy over the boring explanations rather than an unsolved murder.

I wouldn't say so. The CIA and high ranking military officials certainly hated him and wanted him dead. There was a strong motive and there many inconsistencies in the way the case was handled afterwards. The majority of higher ranking CIA officials really considered JFK a traitor, because he didn't send air support at the bay of pigs (following through with what he had clearly stated all along). There were claims th…

Palme was also hated by many army officers and security police. However that doesn't imply much.

Re: Who killed Olof Palme?

#34
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say so. The CIA and high ranking military officials certainly hated him and wanted him dead. There was a strong motive and there many inconsistencies in the way the case was handled afterwards. The majority of higher ranking CIA officials really considered JFK a traitor, because he didn't send air support at the bay of pigs (following through with what he had clearly stated all along). There were claims th…

But can a conspiracy of more than a very few people be kept under wraps for a lifetime? I find it hard to believe that if there really was a conspiracy that nothing concrete has emerged in all these years.

When everyone involved has been explicitly been trained and selected to work with secrets, in a historical period when such activities are extremely dangerous and brutal, and under the treath of expedite death penalty or assassination... it's not that hard to believe any involved party would keep very silent.

Re: Who killed Olof Palme?

#35
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't say so. The CIA and high ranking military officials certainly hated him and wanted him dead. There was a strong motive and there many inconsistencies in the way the case was handled afterwards. The majority of higher ranking CIA officials really considered JFK a traitor, because he didn't send air support at the bay of pigs (following through with what he had clearly stated all along). There were claims th…

But can a conspiracy of more than a very few people be kept under wraps for a lifetime? I find it hard to believe that if there really was a conspiracy that nothing concrete has emerged in all these years.

I though the recent theory that Oswald did shoot at the motorcade but Kennedy was killed by accident caused by a Security service member being startled by one of Oswald shots and accidently discharging had a lot going for it.

Re: Who killed Olof Palme?

#36
Something about Olof Palme himself. I don't think there has been any other politician in Sweden that have split the opinions in society like him. The left loved him. The right did not. I don't want to reach out for the word hate, because it is so often used today. He was certainly hated among some, yes. But more than that, he was despised probably by the majority among the minority that did not vote left. He left no one neutral.

How come?

A well known quote of his :

"Jag tror efter de studier vi gjort är korrekt att säga att Arbetsgivareföreningens propagandister i mycket framstår som hatets och illviljans kolportörer mot svensk arbetarrörelse"

Basically, this in very sofisticated words describes the Employer organisation's "propagandists" as agents of hate and ill-will against the labour movement. Quite an insult against political opponents. Today, we are perhaps used / more exposed to similar language in social media etc. But during this time, there was nothing like it.

This should be understood against the backdrop of the politics of the time. Sweden was at the time significantly more socialist, very high income taxes, and the right probably felt that there were no limits how far social democratic politicians were prepared to go. Right or wrong, this was the sentiment among many.

His language was often arrogant and in ways derogatory, but not similar to Trump's bombastic tone. In contrast, using much more elegant and precise prose.

I am certain I will get replies that will defend his deeds and oppose how I describe him. Understand that just like society appeared during his reign - two sides who could not understand the other.

Re: Who killed Olof Palme?

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I pass by Adolf Fredrik Church, where he is buried, each day. It was sad to see two people guarding his tomb all day, even in the rain, in the day that commemorates his dead. I have also read a book about his assassination that I will recommend to skip and read about his ideas instead. It will be better to share his ideas than to focus on his death. I think that his world view is more needed now than ever.

Do you have any source that lay out his ideas ?

I would eye through some of his speeches. A couple of english translations can be found here http://web.archive.org/web/20180524035711/http://www.olofpal...
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