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Evidence that pop music is getting sadder and angrier

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Re: Evidence that pop music is getting sadder and angrier

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post #9

Seems it goes up during bad times and then down during good times. Makes kind of sense. Pop music often tries to be counterculture.

That is the basis of the 13-year cycle theory[1], but this is showing that each cycle never recovers, so to speak, resulting in a continual trend towards sadder and angrier.

[1] https://globalnews.ca/news/4082568/the-theory-of-the-13-year...

Re: Evidence that pop music is getting sadder and angrier

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Interesting article. Too bad they resort to a clickbait title as opposed to the title used for it here on HN. My willingness to post an article on social media to share it with others is inversely proportionate to the clickbaityness of its title. If it has a clickbait title I ain’t posting it. And this one does, so I won’t. Too bad, because the article is good.

So the clickbait was actually providing the payoff it promised? The article was good, so you aren't going to post it because its title was too catchy? "Clickbait" is when you get suckered into clicking bad content via a catchy headline. It isn't clickbait when it's actually a good article that "delivers" on the headline's promise.

Re: Evidence that pop music is getting sadder and angrier

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This is true. They swapped happy HiNRG / Eurodance with the ....t we see today. It is music for psychos, it does not make you happy. Even newer Italo Disco (my favorite) is getting sadder, it has lost that happy melodies of the 1986-1989 era or the happier early Eurobeat 1988-1993 sounds. Even moder Eurobeat is getting dark (MeganrgMan has not, thank you). We are heading to a depressive and dystopian pop/rock/disco style.

Bye bye Venga boys, bye bye Dr Alban, bye bye Alexis and GoGo Girls , bye bye Mel&Kim or Jackie Rawe, we will not see you again.

Re: Evidence that pop music is getting sadder and angrier

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post #16

I'm a fan of generally more aggressive music, and I'm also an old fart, but whenever I'm (usually accidentally) exposed to anything from nowadays, it sounds "too happy" to me - saccharine, treacly, shallow, heavy on notes 1, 2, 3 and 5 of the major scale, full of "millenial whoops" ( https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=millenial+whoop ) and so on. So hearing that "pop music is getting sadder and angrier" sur…

Precisely, the millenial whoop carries a little bit of bitterness because it is a minor third. It would be totally different with a major interval (then it would sound closer to some excerpt from the electro-pop era). Edit: I just got aware there are also a lot of minor third in most of the "happiest" electro-tunes, so I am off the point. Maybe it is something else then, like how it is accompanied, the drums, etc. For example, I don't feel very happy when I hear a lot of synthesizer "hand claps" and too much pitch vibrato.

Re: Evidence that pop music is getting sadder and angrier

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm surprised at the proportion of people who have never heard of the Weather Underground and the SDS.

There was also plenty of right wing terrorism (the Klan in particular)

I don't support right wing terrorism (the Klan in particular).

Re: Evidence that pop music is getting sadder and angrier

#36

Interesting article. Too bad they resort to a clickbait title as opposed to the title used for it here on HN. My willingness to post an article on social media to share it with others is inversely proportionate to the clickbaityness of its title. If it has a clickbait title I ain’t posting it. And this one does, so I won’t. Too bad, because the article is good.

So the clickbait was actually providing the payoff it promised? The article was good, so you aren't going to post it because its title was too catchy? "Clickbait" is when you get suckered into clicking bad content via a catchy headline. It isn't clickbait when it's actually a good article that "delivers" on the headline's promise.

It’s a clickbait type of title because it doesn’t convey a good reason to read the article on its own — it’s enticing you to click in order to find out whether the article is of interest or not.

HN non-clickbait title:

> Evidence that pop music is getting sadder and angrier

Original clickbait title:

> Is pop music really getting sadder and angrier?

It needlessly formulated the title as a question to intrigue people to click it.

Writing the titles in this way serves no purpose but to waste people’s time by tricking them to click through.

I refuse to partake in the further proliferation of any article that practices this style of writing titles.

Clickbait titles need to die. The only chance we have of getting rid of them is to not give them traffic. That won’t ever happen of course, but at least we have the useful policy here on HN to shield us from being manipulated by the titles when we decide what we want to read and not.

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