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Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

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Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

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Why is this a news? Doesn't federal debt mature all the time?

it isn't, someone wrote about it on an irrelevant site, someone posted it here and it trends here

it just opens the discussion on this general topic, but nothing really about the specific thing being discussed

Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US Government spends more money than it takes in taxes. In order to finance the difference it takes out loans (in many ways just like you might take out a loan to buy something). These loans take the form of government bonds. Various people/organizations buy these bonds and give the US government money. Later on these bonds "mature" and those people get their money back plus some interest. This post is saying tha…

One buyer, in particular, most likely will stop buying and that is China.

If China stops buying then they'll lose their competitive advantage compared to regional neighbours with the US.

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#33

"If you have the right people, like, in the agencies and the various people that do the balancing ... you can cut the numbers by two pennies and three pennies and balance a budget quickly and have a stronger and better country." -Trump "I’m pledging to cut the deficit by half by the end of my first term in office." -Obama "We must balance the federal budget. We can do so without raising taxes. What we need to do is i…

Obama did cut the deficit in half. More than half. At least over the course of his entire presidency, not sure about the first term.

It wasn't by the end of his first term, though, right? Fair point overall, though.

Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

#34

Can someone ELI5 what this means?

Also keep in mind that right now, debt is often monatory creation. If this debt is reimbursed, it might slow the economy and might create a deflation and push the growth of GPD to th negative (GPD is a bad indicator, but for stuff like that it is quite usefull). Its not likely, but still, people often forget that debt is good for our current economies.

Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

#35

"If you have the right people, like, in the agencies and the various people that do the balancing ... you can cut the numbers by two pennies and three pennies and balance a budget quickly and have a stronger and better country." -Trump "I’m pledging to cut the deficit by half by the end of my first term in office." -Obama "We must balance the federal budget. We can do so without raising taxes. What we need to do is i…

Obama did cut the deficit in half. More than half. At least over the course of his entire presidency, not sure about the first term.

He did, but only after he doubled it his first couple years.

Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

#36

"If you have the right people, like, in the agencies and the various people that do the balancing ... you can cut the numbers by two pennies and three pennies and balance a budget quickly and have a stronger and better country." -Trump "I’m pledging to cut the deficit by half by the end of my first term in office." -Obama "We must balance the federal budget. We can do so without raising taxes. What we need to do is i…

Obama did cut the deficit in half. More than half. At least over the course of his entire presidency, not sure about the first term.

He also nearly doubled the national debt though.

Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

#37
This discussion is so twisted with incorrect and downright offensive to proper reasoning rhetoric. Please look up modern monetary theory. Stephanie Kelton explained modern governmental finance very well in a pod cast on Tuesday last week with Chris Hayes. Basically, if the government runs a deficit then there is a surplus somewhere in the economy that otherwise wouldn’t be. The recent trillion dollar tax cuts and lack of resulting inflation underscore their point.

The US and world economies are enumerated with USD - a fiat currency. The government says “you may pay your debts with our currency” and only they supply it. Which means all money comes from the government and only the government.

Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

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Am I wrong in thinking that this doesn't bode well for the value of the dollar over time, and will likely cause hyperinflation?

As others have pointed out, not hyperinflation. Hyperinflation requires a pathologically broken central government. One of the things that prevents that from happening in the U.S. is that the Federal Reserve is a quasi-public institution with a fixed mandate--low unemployment, moderate inflation. (Why moderate? Because a small amount of inflation incentivizes investments and consumption by preventing people from sitting on cash.) But it would be naive to say that the U.S. could never get there.

The bulwark that protects the Federal Reserve has been steadily attacked from the right since the financial crisis. The GOP almost revolted against Bush for the bail-out, and because the government was slow to respond and did so anemically the Federal Reserve stepped into the void with massive infusions of cash. This resulted in cries for the Federal Reserve's independence to be diminished. Such opponents were never forced to reconcile with the fact that the Federal Reserve saved our bacon.

Elsewhere, on both the left and right, you have the constant reminders that fiscal debt can be "fixed" by inflating away the debt. If our political culture continues to internalize that notion then at some point when things become more dire we may actually attempt it. But in as much as it's a viable approach, it could only possibly work from a position of fiscal and monetary strength, a position we would surely not be in were we seriously contemplating it.

Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

#39

"If you have the right people, like, in the agencies and the various people that do the balancing ... you can cut the numbers by two pennies and three pennies and balance a budget quickly and have a stronger and better country." -Trump "I’m pledging to cut the deficit by half by the end of my first term in office." -Obama "We must balance the federal budget. We can do so without raising taxes. What we need to do is i…

Obama did cut the deficit in half. More than half. At least over the course of his entire presidency, not sure about the first term.

To be clear, when your predecessor is Bush the Lesser, and he has run the global economy into the ground, this is not that difficult a task to accomplish. But yes, Obama at least, moved in the right direction.

Re: Over $9T of Federal Debt Will Mature in the Next Four Years

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obama did cut the deficit in half. More than half. At least over the course of his entire presidency, not sure about the first term.

He did, but only after he doubled it his first couple years.

That's a lie, he was handed a trillion + deficit coming in; which he cut down virtually every year of his presidency.
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