Live data from Hacker News

First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

searchengineland.com

31–40 of 42 posts

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#31

Wow, surprise surprise: a Chrome netbook can not serve as a replacement workstation for a sysadmin. Were these really intended as anything but a casual computing device?

It does actually have a terminal and you can open up a ssh session to an outside computer, so maybe sysadmin isn't too much of a stretch :)

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#32
post #11

It sounds like he applied without ever reading about Chrome OS... "Immediately, I realized even if I could get Twhirl to install, this was impossible with Chrome OS. There seems to be no concept of minimizing your browser, much less letting it take up less than the entire screen." He's trying to install desktop software and minimize the browser in a browser based OS . That he can't do what he wants is central to the…

I'm with the press. I was given the computer without having to apply. I tried to install Twhirl out of curiosity, to see what would happened. I didn't expect it to work. It didn't. But it was interesting to try. Sometimes you discover things that way.

> I'm with the press. I was given the computer without having to apply.

If you're with the press, shouldn't you - more than other people even - research things?

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#33
post #10

You can deduce two things out of this post : - First, chrome OS is still very alpha software - Second, this guy will never be the audience for such an OS. This certainly leaves the question, for who will this OS be for ? The fact of not even being able, by design, to have two windows visible at the same time is a show stopper for me. I liked the tone of the review in the end, even if it irritated me at first. The guy…

“The fact of not even being able, by design, to have two windows visible at the same time is a show stopper for me” You cannot have multiple windows on most mobile devices. Or TV's. People live fine with it.

"is a show stopper for _me_".

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#34
post #33
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“The fact of not even being able, by design, to have two windows visible at the same time is a show stopper for me” You cannot have multiple windows on most mobile devices. Or TV's. People live fine with it.

"is a show stopper for _me_".

True.

My point is the design of Chrome OS doesn't seem to have superusers in mind.

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#35
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“The fact of not even being able, by design, to have two windows visible at the same time is a show stopper for me” You cannot have multiple windows on most mobile devices. Or TV's. People live fine with it.

This isn't a mobile device. It's a laptop. If I can take a laptop right now with Chrome on it, break off two separate windows, why on earth wouldn't I be able to do that on a Chrome laptop? The answer is that they haven't implemented it yet. I expect they will.

Based on my experience watching non-techy users using browsers, and the design goal of Chrome OS, I don't think it is going to happen anytime soon.

Quick question: if you can split into two windows, why not 4? 8? Then you end up with a Window-based UI, which is more complicated than simple tab-based.

It is very limiting, but I don't think normal people who just check their emails and Facebook updates would find annoying.

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#36
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm with the press. I was given the computer without having to apply. I tried to install Twhirl out of curiosity, to see what would happened. I didn't expect it to work. It didn't. But it was interesting to try. Sometimes you discover things that way.

> I'm with the press. I was given the computer without having to apply. If you're with the press, shouldn't you - more than other people even - research things?

Sure. Which part of a review written from the perspective of someone who was trying out a brand new computer as if they were a consumer who had just been handed it and told to try with no instructions did you find poorly researched?

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#37
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't a mobile device. It's a laptop. If I can take a laptop right now with Chrome on it, break off two separate windows, why on earth wouldn't I be able to do that on a Chrome laptop? The answer is that they haven't implemented it yet. I expect they will.

Based on my experience watching non-techy users using browsers, and the design goal of Chrome OS, I don't think it is going to happen anytime soon. Quick question: if you can split into two windows, why not 4? 8? Then you end up with a Window-based UI, which is more complicated than simple tab-based. It is very limiting, but I don't think normal people who just check their emails and Facebook updates would find annoy…

I agree. I think few people would be upset if they couldn't open up two separate browser windows. That's hardly a product killer, in and of itself.

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#38
post #29
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some small things, like the screenshot thing, just tells you that this os isn't finished yet. Screenshot functionality is there, though. It's just pretty hard to discover unless you visit help.

I think the issue is that there isn't any feedback when you take a screenshot. You have to take the screenshot and then open the file browser to see it. The other issue Danny was encountering was that Wordpress uses a flash based file upload widget. When flash opens a choose file dialog it opens a GTK-like full system browser. The standard Chrome OS file browser that comes up when you hit a HTML file input is much si…

That's it exactly! After I finished the review, I talked with Google and said so what's up -- the screenshot feature doesn't seem to work. Yes, it does. You just have no idea that one was made. There's no showing you of what you shot. A file is just made, placed in your screenshot directory, which you can't even get to until you use a program that allows you to select from the hard drive.

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#39
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why would anyone want a netbook with such a limited OS? Maybe they didn't have tablets for this pilot thing.

Nah, Chrome OS is not designed for touchscreens. There's Android for that.

Well, so Google says. That seems a convenient way to get people off their backs for having both. Google TV runs on Android, not Chrome. Google TV isn't a touchscreen. The reality is, Google has two different product teams and had no intention of telling either one to give up on their goals. And with Apple pushing both MacOS and iOS, it has no immediate need to do so, either.

Re: First Day Review: The Google Chrome OS Cr-48 Notebook

#40

Some thoughts: It's a little odd that it wouldn't allow you to install Chrome extensions from outside of the market The external harddrives probably DID work, and would show him images if he used something that required browsing for them As much as I hate to admit it, he's right about iTunes. Who with an iP{{o,a}d,oop} would be able to use this thing alone as primary pc? How do floating pop up type windows work? I.e.…

Hard drives definitely don't work. Google confirmed that with me when I talked with them after the review. The promise this will come.

Extensions will work if they don't use some API thingee (that's the technical term) that Google doesn't find secure enough. Don't have my notes, but NP/API? Anyway, most of the stuff in the market they tell me should be fine -- but even there, not all of it will be, guaranteed, I was told. In short, Chrome in Chrome OS is not exactly the same as the Chrome browser.

On iTunes, we'll all be using music from the cloud. Seriously -- my second day interview with them will get into this. Maybe so. But if you're into Apple devices, you're still going to need iTunes.

On 3G, I have a 5GB plan that I've used for years. Never gone over my limit. But, I only use it for when I'm traveling, about 5 days or so per month. If this was your main plan, expensive. But Google positions it as something you can use if you're out and away from WiFi.

Post reply on HN