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Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

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post #27

> Today, we have a great opportunity to use new technologies to solve the problems: […] real identity […] > Join Golden > First Name Last Name Yeah, no. A “real names” policy is a really terrible idea , for reasons outlined here: https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Who_is_harmed_by_a_%22Re...

I'd like to see a breakdown of the benefits next to the costs.

As it stands, the article you link here is a judgement seeking non-anecdotal data.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

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post #22

> The arbitrary threshold of what is notable and what is not doesn't cut it in the Knowledge Age. There are currently 5.8 million English language articles in Wikipedia, and Google had 1 billion objects (200x Wikipedia's size) in its Knowledge Graph when it launched in 2015. We estimate internally that there are 1000x the entities to cover than what Wikipedia has today. It’s an exciting challenge! This is a very weir…

> That articles, or even drafts, for specific American VC-funded projects did not reach WP's acceptability threshold does not mean that there is something fundamentally wrong in Wikimedia's approach.

Unless your goals include preserving knowledge that is outside of WP's guidelines. WP drew the line for what is worth preserving in one place, there is room enough in the world for a service that draws the line somewhere else.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#33
post #22

> The arbitrary threshold of what is notable and what is not doesn't cut it in the Knowledge Age. There are currently 5.8 million English language articles in Wikipedia, and Google had 1 billion objects (200x Wikipedia's size) in its Knowledge Graph when it launched in 2015. We estimate internally that there are 1000x the entities to cover than what Wikipedia has today. It’s an exciting challenge! This is a very weir…

More interesting questions:

1. What does not work in WP's model that you will address? Moderation? Transparency? Funding?

2. How do you plan to have 1000x the number of articles on WP? How do you plan to moderate and follow the accuracy of these 6,000,000,000 articles?

3. Is it an English-only project or do you value international contributions?

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#34
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jude from Golden here. We won't do the reg wall - hold me to it :>. We want the information to be open and EASY to access, thus no reg screen. CC4.0

How about API access and textual dumps for the other kinds of analysis?

If they offer API access I think it's fair to charge for it. At least for a certain scale.

Hard to offer something for free if the server costs & maintainence are non-trivial.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

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post #22

> The arbitrary threshold of what is notable and what is not doesn't cut it in the Knowledge Age. There are currently 5.8 million English language articles in Wikipedia, and Google had 1 billion objects (200x Wikipedia's size) in its Knowledge Graph when it launched in 2015. We estimate internally that there are 1000x the entities to cover than what Wikipedia has today. It’s an exciting challenge! This is a very weir…

Wikipedia notability is actually quite strict. Relatively few businesses have significant coverage by multiple independent reliable sources, for example.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#37

I like the concept. I'd like to know how they plan on addressing auditability of content - where it comes from, how it changes over time, etc.

Jude from Golden here. TLDR answer on this important question and I’m interested in the community ideas on this problem set: 1. High visual transparency and open edit logs eg golden.com/wiki/Morphogenetic_Engineering/activity 2. Using real profiles so we can prevent bots / multi accounts etc. 3. Cross checking SPO/fact triples in the prose against our structured data to validate information. 4. Cross checking against…

Please reconsider the real names policy, it is perfectly appropriate to keep my legal name separate from what I write online, and I don't even live in a country where I can be arrested for my opinions.

I would much rather see a 'durable identity' process, whereby when someone sees my username as an author, they know it was authored by me. This goes beyond allowing or not allowing duplicate screennames (where you swap an I for l and impersonate a politician etc) -- consider authenticating edits and transactions with public key cryptography so I can assert my identity -- just not necessarily the one I can't change.

keybase.io is, of course, an innovator in this space and you should consider adopting their strategy for asserting identity online !

You can still make it a pain in the ass to create multiple accounts without asking for a government ID (which can be faked too, by the way!). ban multiple log-ins from single IP, have a phone number challenge, put a waiting period on the account, nothing is perfect but all of this is better than having to use my real name.

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

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post #22

> The arbitrary threshold of what is notable and what is not doesn't cut it in the Knowledge Age. There are currently 5.8 million English language articles in Wikipedia, and Google had 1 billion objects (200x Wikipedia's size) in its Knowledge Graph when it launched in 2015. We estimate internally that there are 1000x the entities to cover than what Wikipedia has today. It’s an exciting challenge! This is a very weir…

Jude from Golden here. Unfortunately, there are many more topics other than US companies being removed eg right now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soda_Popinski is up for removal. This notability issue spans almost all entity types. Additionally, many topics just simply don't make it onto there soon enough https://golden.com/wiki/Morphogenetic_Engineering Another example, Lisk was removed https://golden.com/wiki/Lisk SV Angel https://golden.com/wiki/SV_Angel

Re: Golden: Mapping human knowledge

#39
post #30

The blog post says, "Public topic pages will be free to access and the text available on CC 4.0." What does "CC 4.0" mean? There are many version 4 Creative Commons licenses. I looked at an actual Golden article and the bottom of the page says, "Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0; additional terms apply. By using this site, you agree to our Terms & Conditions." Okay, so CC-BY-SA-4…

CC-BY-SA-4.0 correct, we are correcting the blog post.
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