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Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by iwr » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 2:19 PM UTC

ghostDancer wrote: post #30

iwr wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While PayPal deserves the negative rep for screwing their customers, it doesn't deserve it for being a US corporation, vulnerable to the US government. The bad guy here is not PayPal.

Paypal is helping and aiding the bad guy. So what does that make them?? Minions ?? An image : http://milhaud.tumblr.com/post/2091089035/julian-assange-es-...

Can PayPal really afford to say no? The government has many ways it can make life miserable for the company.

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by chopsueyar » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 2:24 PM UTC

ra wrote: post #20

cubicle67 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah, what's the story with that? Shouldn't the money either be given to Wikileaks (unlikely) or returned the the donor? In what sort of world can the middle man cut one side of a deal out, and keep the money?

Exactly. Who's the criminal in this picture?

PayPal!

Ah, but their existence bore YouTube, and without YouTube, where would we be then?

What did Mark Cuban ever do for you?

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by dualogy » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 2:44 PM UTC

iwr wrote: post #31

ghostDancer wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paypal is helping and aiding the bad guy. So what does that make them?? Minions ?? An image : http://milhaud.tumblr.com/post/2091089035/julian-assange-es-...

Can PayPal really afford to say no? The government has many ways it can make life miserable for the company.

Isn't that the VERY PROBLEM Wikileaks is showcasing here?

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by dualogy » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 2:44 PM UTC

gbrindisi wrote: post #26

I am reading a lot of boycott statement against Paypal in the comments – and I fully understand – but guys... where have you been when Amazon refused to host Wikileaks? And what about EasyDNS? Paypal is a company doing business and I dislike them as much as you do but please don't forget that Government >> Company. Always.

Isn't that the very problem Wikileaks is showcasing here?

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by kzar » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 2:56 PM UTC

Roritharr wrote: post #13

I just closed my PayPal account because of this. Here is a direct Link if you want to do it yourself. https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_close-account

I'd just donated to Wikileaks and PayPal wont let me close my account until next week when it's cleared. I hope they actually see the money :o

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by galactus » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 3:03 PM UTC

kilian wrote: post #4

I just donated via Paypal yesterday. Guess I'll donate again, but via credit card, today.

So did I. I wonder if wikileaks will still get that money.

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by marquis » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 3:10 PM UTC

According to wikileaks you can still donate by credit card via https://donations.datacell.com. I'm not clear if the processor is based in Iceland or Switzerland.

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by steveklabnik » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 3:27 PM UTC

Roritharr wrote: post #13

I just closed my PayPal account because of this. Here is a direct Link if you want to do it yourself. https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_close-account

Thanks. The direct link was the difference between me closing it right now, and me saying "I'm going to," and then forgetting.

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by sliverstorm » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 3:33 PM UTC

dualogy wrote: post #33

iwr wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can PayPal really afford to say no? The government has many ways it can make life miserable for the company.

Isn't that the VERY PROBLEM Wikileaks is showcasing here?

It's a problem that a company has to obey the laws of the country it resides in?

Re: PayPal Suspends WikiLeaks Account

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Post by kgarten » Sat, Dec 04, 2010, 3:40 PM UTC

jessor wrote: post #5

Paypal also took the account of the Wau Holland Stiftung because they collect money for wikileaks. PayPal told us we are "in violation of PayPal's Acceptable Use Policy regarding (...) financial support to Wikileaks" and took our account. http://twitter.com/#!/wauland/status/10987193778569216

PayPal went over board with this, as the Wau Holland Foundation just gave money to Wikileaks for a specific purpose holding them accountable for any spendings. It is impossible to argue that the money from the foundation was used for any illegal/criminal activity.