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Tech Industry-Funded Think Tanks Work to Overturn California Privacy Law

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I'm working on a side project and the setup is basically that you get to see all the data I have on you. Granted this is a tiny project that is largely just for me, but as a policy that seems like that is the most clear cut way to go.

The big data players have tools for this. For example: https://datacloudoptout.oracle.com/registry/

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Is there any law/legal mechanism which could put automatic expiration on new laws? Is there anything I could suggest to my lawmakers for this to happen? I mean, we seem to be following a pattern: Big power wants something that directly and negatively impact the quality of life of the majority of the populace. Populace rises up against this. Big power 'loses'. Big power makes the push again next year. People rise up,…

> Is there any law/legal mechanism which could put automatic expiration on new laws? It can be (and has been for some laws) done. In the past, it's been done by including "sunset provisions" in the law itself, where the law must be periodically confirmed by a new vote or it automatically ceases to have force of law. It would also be legally possible to create a law that places sunset provisions on all subsequent laws…

It's like when you suggest that maybe getting rid of lobbying is a solution to political corruption.

Practically it might not happen, but if enough people move in the direction of supporting something like this, the pressure will build. Just as it was not practical to make marijuana legal in the 60s.

Remember that the people in power are mostly old dinosaurs who will die soon (they are old already)

They will be replaced and the vision of those replacing them will shape the future.

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It is so sad to see the bad actors in the tech industry pushing so hard to advance policies that are harmful to society at large and people individually. It is even more sad that I'm not the least bit surprised by this.

Standing by for employee protests.

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I wish I could say I was surprised by this... but I am not. What I am really curious about, are any of these companies linked to Apple? Considering the very public stance they have been recently taking. The article does not specifically mention them either way (and they are the only of the big ones missing).

Not sure about Apple but I like that all the companies linked are all supporters of NN. Almost as if a public face, NN, and a private face, think tanks to overturn privacy laws.

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Is there any possibility to recoup losses incurred while accessing siloed and hostile websites trying to pull my private information? I'm using some privacy enhancements in browser, and major websites don't work properly because of them. Is it possible to win a claim for incurred losses at least in time, if not in data leaks?

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I wish I could say I was surprised by this... but I am not. What I am really curious about, are any of these companies linked to Apple? Considering the very public stance they have been recently taking. The article does not specifically mention them either way (and they are the only of the big ones missing).

Not sure about Apple but I like that all the companies linked are all supporters of NN. Almost as if a public face, NN, and a private face, think tanks to overturn privacy laws.

I wouldn't necessarily tie net neutrality and this together, since NN supports them as much as us. Considering it most likely would be them footing the bill (or loosing traffic) without NN

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> Is there any law/legal mechanism which could put automatic expiration on new laws? It can be (and has been for some laws) done. In the past, it's been done by including "sunset provisions" in the law itself, where the law must be periodically confirmed by a new vote or it automatically ceases to have force of law. It would also be legally possible to create a law that places sunset provisions on all subsequent laws…

It's like when you suggest that maybe getting rid of lobbying is a solution to political corruption. Practically it might not happen, but if enough people move in the direction of supporting something like this, the pressure will build. Just as it was not practical to make marijuana legal in the 60s. Remember that the people in power are mostly old dinosaurs who will die soon (they are old already) They will be repla…

Yes, you make an excellent point and I agree.

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I can't wait for the CA law to come into effect. "The law, set to take effect next year, gives California residents the power to view the types of data companies collect from them, request that the data be deleted, and allows residents to declare that their data not be sold to third parties."

Does anyone know if the law includes the ability to demand that data third parties have collected be deleted as well? Will I be able to tell what third parties already have my data from the source of collection?

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I think the best approach to informational self-determination is to define that any information concerning you as a person belongs to yourself. Any diversion needs active consent. This is what this think tank (a name for every sweaty office) allegedly wants to get rid off. I doubt this clear definition is impractical or utopian and could very well be implemented, so I doubt effective privacy legislation needs to be e…

> any information concerning you as a person belongs to yourself. Any diversion needs active consent But in the US that isn't true even outside of the internet. If you walk outside of your home/land, I can legally photograph and record video of you. I can write down what you're wearing, make assumptions about your income based on your address, record you gender/age/etc. All of that is 100% legal - you willingly give…

and where do you draw the line when moving from real world example to digital?

watching tv at home and netflix tracking everything about you?

alexa being actively used in your home to check the weather?

alexa and LG tvs passively listening in your home? and reporting back all the offline media you play?

google tracking what you search in your property (devices) in incognoto mode?

you using a mobile device that is technically owned by the wireless provider for another 11mo?

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