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2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

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Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

#31
This is like going to a film festival to watch spiderman 2. I was hoping to pick up something for next read but I really don't want to read another trump stuff. All the trump/immigrant/women/muslim/minority news have cast a pall of anxiety and dread over my life.

was hoping to get some awarness about a new cause/topic but this just whats in news cycle everyday.

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

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Well, he is the president.

I honestly don't follow pulitzer prizes, but sampling a few recent years (in the past 20), I can't find any where there was ANY award for investigation against a president (there was one for investigation against Dick Cheney in 2008). Has this ever happened before?

A Pulitzer was awarded for reporting on Clinton's Lewinsky affair: https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/maureen-dowd

And I'm on mobile now but I'm sure they were awarded for some things having to do with the Iraq War.

If presidents commit crimes, that's highly notable (and a big deal).

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

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I'm a little surprised that Miami Herald isn't on the list for their Epstein reporting, maybe they're not eligible until next year.

I came across this open letter from Alan Dershowitz, lobbying against their Pulitzer consideration[1]. I haven't seen a public response from either the reporter or the Miami Herald, so I'm curious about their views of the points he brings up. To be clear, I'm not saying he is accurate. I just don't know enough either way. He's obviously an interested party to the whole story. [1] https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/14…

I was actually browsing the Pulitzer site after reading this year's winners list - I decided to go to the beginning and find the first reference to 'President'. Louis Seibold of New York World for an interview with Woodrow Wilson. So I google Louis Seibold and come up with this '10 journos caught fabricating" on the Politic site (which includes the Dershowitz story, that's why I'm replying to your comment !) https://www.politico.com/story/2012/07/10-journos-caught-fab...

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

#34

Supposedly "Enemies of the People"

I don't know - love him or hate him, you have to agree this is a pretty anti-Trump list. Whether he's actually corrupt or not, this is evidence that the media is stacked against him - history will show if they were right or not.

And the published body of scientific literature is pretty anti-flat-Earth. What's your point? People that commit crimes will ideally be investigated for them.

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came across this open letter from Alan Dershowitz, lobbying against their Pulitzer consideration[1]. I haven't seen a public response from either the reporter or the Miami Herald, so I'm curious about their views of the points he brings up. To be clear, I'm not saying he is accurate. I just don't know enough either way. He's obviously an interested party to the whole story. [1] https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/14…

Do you think we should trust his narrative? I remember watching the disingenuous way he debated Chomsky on Israel/Palestine and thinking that he was totally sleazy [1] https://youtu.be/3ux4JU_sbB0

I am not sure. Like you, I have seen him engage in disingenuous methods of debating. However, it does seem he offered 'hard' proof to corroborate his story, which is why I'm curious to see how the Herald would respond. It seems we'll find out more about the Epstein affair as there are renewed pushes to investigate what happened in the plea deal.

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, he is the president.

I honestly don't follow pulitzer prizes, but sampling a few recent years (in the past 20), I can't find any where there was ANY award for investigation against a president (there was one for investigation against Dick Cheney in 2008). Has this ever happened before?

Keep in mind that 8 of the last 20 years were the historically scandal-free Obama presidency. See eg. https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/atd-I...

The Obama presidency wasn't completely scandal-free, but there wasn't much opportunity for Pulitzer level investigative reporting against him specifically.

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don't follow pulitzer prizes, but sampling a few recent years (in the past 20), I can't find any where there was ANY award for investigation against a president (there was one for investigation against Dick Cheney in 2008). Has this ever happened before?

Keep in mind that 8 of the last 20 years were the historically scandal-free Obama presidency. See eg. https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/atd-I... The Obama presidency wasn't completely scandal-free, but there wasn't much opportunity for Pulitzer level investigative reporting against him specifically.

There was significant reporting of his administration's spying on journalists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_articles_about_the_Depart...

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don't follow pulitzer prizes, but sampling a few recent years (in the past 20), I can't find any where there was ANY award for investigation against a president (there was one for investigation against Dick Cheney in 2008). Has this ever happened before?

Keep in mind that 8 of the last 20 years were the historically scandal-free Obama presidency. See eg. https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/atd-I... The Obama presidency wasn't completely scandal-free, but there wasn't much opportunity for Pulitzer level investigative reporting against him specifically.

It's not so much that there weren't scandals.

It's more about a press corps that let Obama get away with things they would have never given somebody like Trump a pass for.

For example, look at the press reaction to Obama refusing to prosecute CIA torture vs. Trump nominating one of the career officials Obama previously gave a pass to to head up the CIA.

Likewise, I doubt we would give Trump a pass for attempting to move due process free prisons like Gitmo onto American soil.

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think we should trust his narrative? I remember watching the disingenuous way he debated Chomsky on Israel/Palestine and thinking that he was totally sleazy [1] https://youtu.be/3ux4JU_sbB0

I am not sure. Like you, I have seen him engage in disingenuous methods of debating. However, it does seem he offered 'hard' proof to corroborate his story, which is why I'm curious to see how the Herald would respond. It seems we'll find out more about the Epstein affair as there are renewed pushes to investigate what happened in the plea deal.

Dersh argues many things confidently and aggressively that seem perhaps facially convincing. Or perhaps you simply don't have time or the presence of mind to present a counterargument in the moment. That's his "strength" as a lawyer. Don't believe any claim until you see the underlying exculpatory evidence, which only he claims exists and only he claims is exculpatory. In this case, he presents none of the evidence. Not one single piece of it. He only presents what the response of others was upon seeing it. He can pull this gag on the general public, but in a court one requires discovery.

Re: 2019 Pulitzer Prize Winners

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, he is the president.

I honestly don't follow pulitzer prizes, but sampling a few recent years (in the past 20), I can't find any where there was ANY award for investigation against a president (there was one for investigation against Dick Cheney in 2008). Has this ever happened before?

Watergate is the obvious example. But there haven't been many investigations of presidents – or at least investigations of presidents personally, which seems to be the scope you're asking about. The AP won the 1999 Feature Photography award for its work covering the Lewinsky affair and impeachment hearings [0]. I don't know if I would count Maureen Dowd's award in commentary [1] as specifically challenging the administration. And I think it's arguable that the Clintons' Whitewater controversy had the same amount of "matter" as what President Trump is currently under investigation for, considering Ken Starr's Whitewater probe recommended impeachment for things not directly related to Whitewater (I would agree that Bill Clinton, however, did not get the scrutiny he deserved for Paula Jones and others).

If you expand the scope of "investigation against a president" to include the actions of his administration, then you'll find more examples:

1987 National Reporting Award for the Miami Herald's reporting on Iran-Contra (Bob Woodward of the WaPo was also a finalist on the same topic in this category) [2]

2011 Editorial Writing to the WSJ for its editorials challenging Obamacare [3]

2014 Public Service Award to The Guardian and the WaPo for the Snowden revelations [4]

[0] https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/photo-staff-0

[1] https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/maureen-dowd

[2] https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/staff-21

[3] https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/joseph-rago

[4] https://www.pulitzer.org/winners/guardian-us

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