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How do you propose to sustainably support 7.5 Billion people on this "tiny" planet without engineering?
Perhaps there is a middle ground between "engineering everything" and "without engineering".
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Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#32I see this as a good thing. We need less people in the world, it will be better for the planet, and civilization will be more sustainable. Better to have a highly automated more empty world than a hot crowded one with too many mouths to feed and not enough food to go around.
EXACTLY ^^. If population worldwide were to drop 90%, global warming and mass extinctions would end. In the 1970s we all worried about world overpopulation. ZPG - Zero Population Growth was desirable. Today that disaster is here! 90% of the world's population is not changing anything about mankind's future they are just hanging out ... we should focus on a smaller world by population and more productivity for the fut…
I honestly cannot tell if Poe's law is applicable here or not.
Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#33I wonder what if one of developed countries focused on males? Something like "future is male" and "support your father/husband/son" etc. Additionally remove any child support for single parents etc. Maybe that could work? Basically the opposite of current policies.
Current policies are that men and women should be treated equally, and the women have the same rights over their bodily autonomy and sexual relationships that men do. I want to read your comment as implying something other than a view that women having such equality and autonomy is a problem. Can you elaborate on what current policies, specifically, you feel are in error and what "future is male" is supposed to mean in relation to improving population numbers?
Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#34If automation is the future, isn’t a decline in the working population a good thing? The robots can just take over the vacant jobs. What am I missing?
Correct, the problem is the misguided idea of immigration when automation is the future.
Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#35I wonder what if one of developed countries focused on males? Something like "future is male" and "support your father/husband/son" etc. Additionally remove any child support for single parents etc. Maybe that could work? Basically the opposite of current policies.
You want to encourage population growth by removing child support?
It's possible he might believe that child support and it's function is being perverted which is fuelling a decline in the number of men willing to engage in relationships with women.
Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#36I see this as a good thing. We need less people in the world, it will be better for the planet, and civilization will be more sustainable. Better to have a highly automated more empty world than a hot crowded one with too many mouths to feed and not enough food to go around.
You're the reason many people don't take global warming seriously. People like you are so wrong on population and its effects so they just assume you're also wrong on global warming.
Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#37Can we stop pretending birth rate decline couldn't self-stabilize? I don't see populations organically shrinking to 0 as a realistic scenario. I for one am tired of extremely misguided and unjustified attempts at engineering everything on the planet.
There are social conditions in other species that can result in extinction of a population group, despite ample resource availability. That's what Calhoun's rat population sink experiments were about. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1644264/pdf/pro... I don't disagree that the number of human beings on this planet is unsustainable, but I also wonder if there are underlying social pathologies that immigra…
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Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#38Can we stop pretending birth rate decline couldn't self-stabilize? I don't see populations organically shrinking to 0 as a realistic scenario. I for one am tired of extremely misguided and unjustified attempts at engineering everything on the planet.
How do you propose to sustainably support 7.5 Billion people on this "tiny" planet without engineering?
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Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#39I wonder what if one of developed countries focused on males? Something like "future is male" and "support your father/husband/son" etc. Additionally remove any child support for single parents etc. Maybe that could work? Basically the opposite of current policies.
Current policies are that men and women should be treated equally, and the women have the same rights over their bodily autonomy and sexual relationships that men do. I want to read your comment as implying something other than a view that women having such equality and autonomy is a problem. Can you elaborate on what current policies, specifically, you feel are in error and what "future is male" is supposed to mean…
Men and women are not always treated equally under the law, it depends greatly where you live. Some examples would be rape laws excluding male victims, compulsory military service, and infant male circumcision.
Re: Japan's working population drops further - and the number of foreigners rise
#40Can we stop pretending birth rate decline couldn't self-stabilize? I don't see populations organically shrinking to 0 as a realistic scenario. I for one am tired of extremely misguided and unjustified attempts at engineering everything on the planet.
There are social conditions in other species that can result in extinction of a population group, despite ample resource availability. That's what Calhoun's rat population sink experiments were about. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1644264/pdf/pro... I don't disagree that the number of human beings on this planet is unsustainable, but I also wonder if there are underlying social pathologies that immigra…
Japan has 126 million people, while in 1910 it had 50 million. Populations are at similar historic, unprecedented heights throughout most of the world, developed and developing.
We are nowhere near having to worry about extinction due to not enough people.