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The difference is that the U.S. is not targeting a regional majority / national minority using advanced technologies, and then placing them into re-education camps as a matter of policy.
I disagree. For many in the African American (and others) community, the war on Drugs (I'm referring to Marijuana especially), has been just that. Of course, the US doesn't call them 'camps.'
You should hear what people say about people that were born and raised in the US South. Seems in some places, it's perfectly (socially) acceptable to pick on others, as long as you're picking on the 'right' group of folks.
There has been widespread advocacy for this sort of socially acceptable "picking on" in the West and in the United States in recent years. People in the SV/Bay Area tech and creative circles will do this. A few years ago, media people were advocating that we label people "Nazis" and then punch them.
I remember people from my youth who used to namecall and label people, then haze them or do violence to them. They would have correctly been called racists and homophobes. In 2019, when people engage in similar behaviors, but for the "other" side, I see this as much worse. The best way to hurt a cause is to advocate for it badly.
It doesn't matter the professed beliefs and stated reasons. To me, the actions speak much louder than the words.
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I’m not sure how factual reporting on what is in China is invalidated as China bashing because similar phenomena occur elsewhere on the planet? Aka the what aboutism logical fallacy.
It's not whataboutism, I'm saying that this is perfectly normal and therefore I don't think it's valid criticism of China in particular.
^ So to be clear this is normal too?
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They have put more than 1 million Uighur muslims in camps, but go off
Was that mentioned in the article? I'm not an economist subscriber so I only read the free blurb.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/apr/11/china-hi-tech-w...
You should hear what people say about people that were born and raised in the US South. Seems in some places, it's perfectly (socially) acceptable to pick on others, as long as you're picking on the 'right' group of folks.
Do people from the South (that aren't a part of traditionally discriminated groups) get discriminated against actively because of their birthplace? Does Joe Redneck lose jobs because he was born in Georgia rather than California? What do those Southerners say about people like me living in San Francisco, CA? Not trying to be aggressive, I just want to know why you think the cultural discrimination against white South…
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Do people from the South (that aren't a part of traditionally discriminated groups) get discriminated against actively because of their birthplace? Does Joe Redneck lose jobs because he was born in Georgia rather than California? What do those Southerners say about people like me living in San Francisco, CA? Not trying to be aggressive, I just want to know why you think the cultural discrimination against white South…
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You're making a generalization about people, that is the problem right here.
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It's not whataboutism, I'm saying that this is perfectly normal and therefore I don't think it's valid criticism of China in particular.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps ^ So to be clear this is normal too?
You should hear what people say about people that were born and raised in the US South. Seems in some places, it's perfectly (socially) acceptable to pick on others, as long as you're picking on the 'right' group of folks.
Do people from the South (that aren't a part of traditionally discriminated groups) get discriminated against actively because of their birthplace? Does Joe Redneck lose jobs because he was born in Georgia rather than California? What do those Southerners say about people like me living in San Francisco, CA? Not trying to be aggressive, I just want to know why you think the cultural discrimination against white South…
In 2019, it has become fashionable to impute beliefs on another person on scant evidence. Perhaps as little as what someone looks like, or what 'type' they are based on the first impression.
Back in the day, we used to call this bigotry.
I dream of the day when all Americans will be judged not by [surface signifier] but by the content of their character.
EDIT: If you are on the Left, then it is especially incumbent on you to call out your own side. What's more, if you're afraid to speak up, or frequently decide to hold your tongue, start asking yourself why.
It's a frequent trope in history: Sociopaths co-opting a cause and the language of movements.