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Congress Is About to Ban the US Government from Offering Free Online Tax Filing

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Re: Congress Is About to Ban the US Government from Offering Free Online Tax Filing

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Oh man, I've had government provided automatic filings for ages now (Finland). US is really odd how it emphasizes the benefit of the middleman over the benefit of the individual citizen (it seems). Or have I completely misunderstood what's going on here?

More like, corporate interest > citizen interest

Re: Congress Is About to Ban the US Government from Offering Free Online Tax Filing

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post #25

Oh man, I've had government provided automatic filings for ages now (Finland). US is really odd how it emphasizes the benefit of the middleman over the benefit of the individual citizen (it seems). Or have I completely misunderstood what's going on here?

You are correct. US Congress (most of the time) legislate in favor of whoever pays more.

Re: Congress Is About to Ban the US Government from Offering Free Online Tax Filing

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post #10

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>sneak in stealth tax changes I don't think we exist in a world where this is possible.

> I don't think we exist in a world where this is possible. The majority of people are pretty ignorant. Look at all the news articles from early in 2019 talking about the size of tax refunds, and people thinking they didn’t get a tax cut because their refund this year was smaller than the one they got last year. In reality, almost everyone got a tax cut (>90% of taxpayers) but that doesn’t necessarily mean a larger r…

Not everyone got a tax cut and the cuts went primarily to businesses and the ultra wealthy. The President also tried to make the cuts look bigger by changing withholding requirements. It doesn't invalidate that most people are ignorant, most people don't even pay any taxes, but if you're moderately well off, have more than one home, and live in a state that actually has a functional state government that provides services to their people, there's a larger possibility that you saw an increase in taxes. No other first world country does taxes the way we do because the IRS already knows how much most people owe.

Re: Congress Is About to Ban the US Government from Offering Free Online Tax Filing

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>sneak in stealth tax changes I don't think we exist in a world where this is possible.

I can imagine it happening. The US tax code is so complicated that most tax payers don't really understand it. Heck, most tax payers don't understand how marginal tax rates work or why having a large refund isn't actually a good thing. I can absolutely believe that a majority of people would accept a negative change to the tax code due to an inability to understand it, choosing to just accept whatever they're being t…

Why isn't a large tax return a good thing? Is it because the tax return is basically what they have taken from your income already?

Re: Congress Is About to Ban the US Government from Offering Free Online Tax Filing

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This is deeply frustrating. I can not tell you how many people I see paying $200-300 for some random "tax preparer" set up in a corner mall or the front of a WalMart simply because they do not understand there are a number of free resources that would prepare their 1040EZ for them at their income/complexity level. These same people get back a $1500 "return" so they think they are getting a good deal. Its pure greed a…

In a libertarian society, a government using tax money to provide services counts as nation state sanctioned violence, but a private company doing the same for profit is called entrepreneurship.

EDIT: Keep it coming! Every downvote proves I'm right.

Re: Congress Is About to Ban the US Government from Offering Free Online Tax Filing

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I think freefillableforms.com -- maintained by the Free File Alliance -- is an example of what the article complains about: > The Free File Alliance, a private industry group, says 70% of American taxpayers are eligible to file for free. Those taxpayers, who must make less than $66,000, have access to free tax software provided by the companies. But just 3% of eligible U.S. taxpayers actually use the free program eac…

Free File Fillable Forms are pretty easy to use for anyone, regardless of income. It doesn't hold your hand and walk you through it, but assuming you can read English at a 4th grade level, I feel like you should be able to do it. Not that I think it should be even this complicated to do taxes, but it's not a terrible option. https://www.irs.gov/filing/free-file-do-your-federal-taxes-f...

It's still maintained by the Free File Alliance. So you're giving your data to a third party that's not the government. I use it, but I would rather I didn't have to share my financial information with third parties to do so.

Re: Congress Is About to Ban the US Government from Offering Free Online Tax Filing

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I just filed my taxes in 10 seconds using the tax authority's smartphone app. It had pre-filled all my deductions such as interest using info reported from my employer and banks. Apart from bribes from those who make tax software (which should be pretty easy to expose) I can't understand why congress wouldn't want to make paying taxes simple and efficient?

Tax prep lobbyist make a lot of campaign contributions and somehow that bribery is 100% legal. Also, there is not a small number of Republicans who think taxes should be hard and confusing to make people hate taxes. They think it would them pass they're super low-tax/no-tax agenda.
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