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Scientists Watch as Heat Moves at the Speed of Sound

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Re: Scientists Watch as Heat Moves at the Speed of Sound

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This is so strange. Just 2 days ago I realised that although excessive sound production is usually a symptom of a machine that is not working properly, if a machine is designed to produce sound to dissipate energy, that energy would not be converted into heat within the machine. The energy is carried away at the speed of sound. I have been thinking about using a similar process to make a "middle of the room" air cond…

Maybe relevant to your nutty idea: Heat is just motion on a small scale. In solid state materials, just like there are quantized configurations of electrons, there are also quantized modes of motion. These are called "phonons". (Analagous to electron / hole model of solid state electronic structure). (It's also true for single molecules, and this is what low energy IR spectroscopy probes. But less relevant for bulk behavior in a liquid or gas state). If the material is anisotropic, probably there will be anisotropic phonons too. The existence / density of thermal modes at IR energies can also determine how much heat a material radiates into the environment versus conducts through its bulk.

SO, just like materials can have an electronic bandgap, materials can have a thermal bandgap too!!! But I can no longer envision what a thermal transistor would behave like. And I'm not sure how this relates to the electronically tuned thermal materials which show you when you google "theal transistor"

Re: Scientists Watch as Heat Moves at the Speed of Sound

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It wouldn't be possible because you need a temperature gradient. Creating sound from plain heat is the wrong direction for entropy.

For the idea to work for cooling, he would need to expand the air in a different location than it was compressed in. (I wonder if standing waves exhibit this effect?) IF it works out that this is possible, I imagine it would be like standing in front of a CO2 fire extinguisher (gets cold as pressure is released).

This is essentially what the pressure waves would be... mild compression waves would travel outward as you pull a cylinder creating a vacuum. You've compressed the entire atmosphere slightly, then you let some air expand back in through a small nozzle to fill the cylinder again.

Then you open a port and push the air back out without changing it's volume, and close the port to complete the cycle...

It seems like there's got to be something wrong with the concept, but I can't put my finger on what exactly.

Re: Scientists Watch as Heat Moves at the Speed of Sound

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This is so strange. Just 2 days ago I realised that although excessive sound production is usually a symptom of a machine that is not working properly, if a machine is designed to produce sound to dissipate energy, that energy would not be converted into heat within the machine. The energy is carried away at the speed of sound. I have been thinking about using a similar process to make a "middle of the room" air cond…

There is a company in the netherlands that uses excessive heat with a similar idea to create air conditioning (SoundEnergy BV[1]). Unfortunately I can't really find a good English article explaining the principle but it's like a sterling engine without moving parts and without pistons.

[1] https://www.soundenergy.nl

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