What incentive could be added to have people view these photos on a regular basis? I think facebook could be one answer with it's global reach. They could do an official page or something and offer real discounts at partnering restaurants or stores from around the world if you spend time each month viewing all the pictures. Imagine the reach they could have. At the same time I feel that there should not be a business of restaurants and the like selling coupons on abuse photos but I think the greater good of finding these kids may be there. The reason I add a type of payment is because it is my belief that though people do mean well, without an incentive they are less likely to view these images. Or perhaps if add companies put those kind of pictures on the websites instead of ads I would disable the adblocker.
Tracing child abusers: Where was this picture taken? [video]
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#32Here the direct link to the picture database https://www.europol.europa.eu/stopchildabuse
Kind of disappointed in how few images there are there, considering the scale of child abuse mentioned in the article it is odd how there is only a dozen or so images to look at and try to identify.
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#33If there can be a first sort done by AI and then human contribution to try to narrow it better it might be helpfull. Like « this picture seems to be located in this area/country » and then people from the area could have a look. I’m pretty sure people would like to help.
It would be great if that was possible. But in the meantime human beings are amazingly good at this kind of thing. Our brains are highly optimised for this kind of work.
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#34Some of the techniques a group on 4chan used are interesting: https://www.ign.com/boards/threads/remember-when-4chan-users...
I'd bee willing to join an IN team trying to do this ... If you can string together a few non-traditional clues to the general area you could target the crowd-sourced part more effectively. Might even be able to get cloud providers to donate unused CPU.
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#35Some of the techniques a group on 4chan used are interesting: https://www.ign.com/boards/threads/remember-when-4chan-users...
Geo-location is a fascinating topic.
Here's a Twitter thread where BBC solved a murder in Cameroon: https://twitter.com/bbcafrica/status/1044186344153583616?lan...
From a single video of the crime, they were able to figure out where, who, and when (!) the crime was committed. (Using Google maps.)
And here's Jeffrey Lewis presenting how they figured out "Where does North Korea Build Its Missile Launchers?" (1h video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9QbI8Jf4hg
Using "only" North Korean propaganda videos and commercially available satellite images and published memoirs from NK defectors, they were able to located the building where NK is making their TELs.
Does anyone have any other examples?
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#36I was able to see a presentation about this topic one time by ICE. It tragic in two senses:
1) The crimes themselves are absolutely intolerable to society.
2) The lack of serious resourcing the seriousness of this crime should warrant.
Part of the presentation was specifically on identifying the location a sequence of photos was taken in the hopes that it would narrow down the search radius for the offender. The team that did the work were members of the ICE HERO program -- one of the coolest veteran-to-civilian programs I've ever seen [1][2]. The folks literally spent weeks "driving" around likely areas in Google maps trying to identify the location. Because the photo was taken from an angle that the car wouldn't have seen, they weren't able to use any automation at all and it literally took a human's intuitive understanding of 3-D spaces to eventually figure it out.
However, what was really tough was that the HERO program only exists because it offers an internship that costs very little to DHS -- they simply can't afford a large group of full-time staff.
I urge anybody who can to petition to better fund anti-child abuse programs.
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#37In this photo there is a small tree at rigth that is partially clipped. Compound leaves with five leaflets. Probably Fraxinus. Fits well. Temperate area in this case. https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/styles/eur... If is Fraxinus excelsior (probably) Europe. If Fraxinus pensylvannica: Eastern half of USA or Argentina.
The writing on the backpack looks Cyrillic to me.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/styles/eur... That card looks like a pokemon card with a Google Chrome logo. Frustratingly familiar.
The thing on the back looks surprisingly similar to a package of "Yerba Rosamonte"[1], which would place this picture in Argentina/Uruguay. But it's too low res to say whether that's the case, or just pareidolia. [1] https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=yerba%20rosamonte&t...
It looks like something else once looking at the same picture with the adjusted light (using Photoshop):
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#39Here the direct link to the picture database https://www.europol.europa.eu/stopchildabuse
https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/styles/eur... That card looks like a pokemon card with a Google Chrome logo. Frustratingly familiar.
That blue can looks like a Nivea 250ml can.
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#40This should be a subreddit. Reddit is pretty good for these things, they have a big, global audience and a great comment system for such things.
e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/whatisthisthing/ works great.