i would like this in a watch that doesnt need charging every week. i dont care for touchscreens and games.
Apple Watch detects irregular heart beat in large U.S. study
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#32If there are any MDs around, I'd be curious to know if there's some kind of data-driven baseline about there being a regular heart beat to begin with, or if there being one is an underlying assumption that's taken for granted. (Either way, kudos to Apple for contributing to health science.)
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#33In the future everyone will wear a smartwatch. My thesis was health and safety. https://h4labs.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/in-the-future-everyo...
When tech companies are subject to the same level of data protection as health care providers, complete with with HIPAA penalties for failure, then I might trust them with medical data.
Would HIPAA not apply to tech companies when handling health data?
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#34Like with any medical test: if you do more tests you will find more incidence. The same thing happened with various forms of cancer screening. If we were to test everybody for everything very few people would be found to be 100% and a lot of unnecessary procedures would be the result. Given the obesity problem this result should not be a surprising finding anyway.
Are you advocating that we shouldn't bother testing instead? I'd imagine that many people would be quite interested in knowing the ways they're not 100% that might actually kill them... like cancer.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you advocating that we shouldn't bother testing instead? I'd imagine that many people would be quite interested in knowing the ways they're not 100% that might actually kill them... like cancer.
Just imagine all the stress and suffering caused by the misdiagnosis and unnecessary visits to the doctor and unnecessary tests and imagine that on a grand scale (to say nothing of wasted resources). I’m not saying that to automatically disqualify and increase in the availability of testing – but it does have to be implemented with the proper care and caution.
That is precisely the beauty of something like an Apple Watch. Everybody can be screened without wasting resources and the device can alert if it is really something that needs a specialist.
Of course, we are on the early stages of something like that and the devices are not really capable of diagnosing on their own, thus you end up with a spike in consultations. But given some time it should be way more accurate and helpful.
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#36i would like this in a watch that doesnt need charging every week. i dont care for touchscreens and games.
You may be interested in a Garmin smartwatch then. They are primarily designed for exercise, so have very good optical-based wrist heart rate sensors, and are designed to minimise battery usage - I can easily get a week and more out of mine (a Garmin Fenix 5), even whilst making heavy use of its GPS and other functionality.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
When tech companies are subject to the same level of data protection as health care providers, complete with with HIPAA penalties for failure, then I might trust them with medical data.
Would HIPAA not apply to tech companies when handling health data?
I don’t think so. HIPAA defines the “covered entities” — e.g. hospitals, health plans — that must follow its regulations. Being a company that handles health data does not automatically make you a covered entity.
https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/faq/190/who-must...
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#38I saw a few posts on Reddit about how the Apple Watch basically saved people's life: https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/a40qm5/heading_... https://www.reddit.com/r/AppleWatch/comments/9zrdq5/how_an_a... I'm sure there is a lot more. (Also all the people losing weight)
Sorry for the stupid question, what do you mean by people losing weight?
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#39In the future everyone will wear a smartwatch. My thesis was health and safety. https://h4labs.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/in-the-future-everyo...
When tech companies are subject to the same level of data protection as health care providers, complete with with HIPAA penalties for failure, then I might trust them with medical data.
There are problems with HIPPA for sure. In fact I trust my doctor's patient portal less than most things I log into.
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#40If I'm reading this right, the Apple Watch was actually more accurate in detecting arterial fibrilation episodes than the ECG patch they used for initial confirmation. The Apple Watch identified 2,000 people. The patch confirmed 33% of those, but then another 51% were confirmed by some undisclosed method.
That's not an accurate interpretation. Atrial fibrillation episodes are not constant- they come and go, and different people will have them at different frequencies. It's possible that people had an episode while wearing the watch but haven't had any episodes while wearing the ECG.
ECGs are also less comfortable to wear than watches, so it's possible the people they sent them to didn't wear them as often (it's even possible that they didn't wear them at all).