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Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Re: Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Post by JoelMcCracken »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #12
theprotocol wrote: post #11

Amid the neverending diet controversy it seems safest to do low carb (non-keto), medium high-quality fat of which a majority is monounsaturated, medium protein - and be aware not to reduce saturated fat too much as it's not that scary after all, but also don't go overboard like some of the somewhat extreme saturated fat advocates that have appeared in the last few years.

Someday I'd like to see a cost-benefit analysis of eating salads in place of something like bacon and eggs. It seems to me that the uptick in cardiovascular health would be swallowed up by the increased risk of food poisoning.

And for me, salads are horrid and ALWAYS make me sick. I only eat vegetables very well cooked, or not at all.

Re: Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Post by the_gastropod »

theprotocol wrote: post #27
the_gastropod wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's the controversy? Virtually every nation's broad dietary recommendations are the same, and are largely unchanged over the last 100 years. There are individual studies about specific foods (like eggs, butters, trans fats, etc) that have some turbulence. But "Eat whole grains, legumes, vegetables, greens, and fruits. Limit meats, saturated fats, sugars, and processed foods." is pretty much only disputed by bro-s…

Most national dietary guidelines seem to be fairly high in carbs imho. There is a huge debate currently, between government endorsed diets, plant-based, and keto, and each group is able to cite numerous studies that contradict the others'.

> Most national dietary guidelines seem to be fairly high in carbs imho

Yes. I agree. I can't recall seeing any modern country's dietary guides suggest a low-carb / keto diet.

Re: Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Post by n8henrie »

crushcrashcrush wrote: post #17
uhtred wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why low carb?

Carbs = Sugar. Period, end of story. The key to good body composition is a high protein, low carb (low sugar) diet. Avoid foods that spike insulin. Anything else is hogwash, because calories are not calories.

Some amino acids are potent insulin secretogogues; proteins induce a fairly robust insulin response.

Re: Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Post by n8henrie »

mklingen wrote: post #23
crushcrashcrush wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carbs = Sugar. Period, end of story. The key to good body composition is a high protein, low carb (low sugar) diet. Avoid foods that spike insulin. Anything else is hogwash, because calories are not calories.

[needs citation]

Most people seriously interested in this topic should already be familiar with the "insulin index" paper (was reposted to HN within the last couple weeks).

EDIT: Or maybe just 3 days ago? Seems like longer. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19369743

Re: Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Post by cuspycode »

SubiculumCode wrote: post #2

But I like eggs damnit. Edit 1. My comment was made on a submission, which I did not think would gain much notice. Oops. Low quality comment to the fore! Edit 2. Really though, I eat a couple of eggs a day. I should scale it back anyway, as a hedge, and eat non-traditional (In USA) breakfasts, like rice and beans.

A famous anecdote for all egg-lovers: Albert Hofmann (inventor of LSD) claimed that he owed his health to eating two raw eggs for breakfast everyday. He lived to the impressive age of 102.

Re: Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Post by theprotocol »

the_gastropod wrote: post #32
theprotocol wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most national dietary guidelines seem to be fairly high in carbs imho. There is a huge debate currently, between government endorsed diets, plant-based, and keto, and each group is able to cite numerous studies that contradict the others'.

> Most national dietary guidelines seem to be fairly high in carbs imho Yes. I agree. I can't recall seeing any modern country's dietary guides suggest a low-carb / keto diet.

I also wanted to say in my last comment that most government endorsed diets only recommend limiting added sugar.

Also, much of that bro-science is now being promoted by many MDs and there's a good chance you'll see some of it become officially adopted in the coming years (and I say this as someone who sees this as a pendulum swing instead of adopting what we learned moderation).

Re: Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Post by benj111 »

crushcrashcrush wrote: post #17
uhtred wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why low carb?

Carbs = Sugar. Period, end of story. The key to good body composition is a high protein, low carb (low sugar) diet. Avoid foods that spike insulin. Anything else is hogwash, because calories are not calories.

"because calories are not calories"

What are/were they then?

Re: Associations of Egg Consumption with Cardiovascular Disease and Mortality

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Post by [deleted] »

nightski wrote: post #6

Oh great, another one of those bs self reporting nutritional studies over super long periods of time. 17.5 years and they only followed up once from what I can tell. Can you accurately report what you ate over the last 17.5 years? Even over the past week can be difficult as I realized when I started tracking my food in MyFitnessPal. Unless consistently tracking, it's pretty easy to be very far off from what you actua…

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