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Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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post #28

At this point it is just an investigation. Nobody has been charged with anything. They have to find a law Facebook has broken first, and presumably establish enough evidence that they expect to succeed at a trial.

Doesn't a grand jury meet after charges have been filed? Or is federal different than state in that respect?

I thought grand jury meets before charges are filed so they can authorize access to documentation and such things?

Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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post #12

There has been a tremendous amount of grassroots lobbying, fundraising, and private investigation in New York over the past two years with respect to Facebook. It’s a serious area I feel Silicon Valley has abdicated its moral obligation to stand up to its own. Hoping we can develop the evidence that comes out of this case into criminal charges for individual engineers and senior officers.

Criminal charges for what exactly? They shared their user data with other companies. Since when is that criminal?

https://www.netlawman.co.uk/ia/breach-of-consent-order

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post #5

It's going to be great seeing all the years of HN commenters complaining that no bankers went to jail, insist that it's bad policy for software engineers to be held criminally liable.

I'd like to go on record advocating both groups be imprisoned.

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post #29

There has been a tremendous amount of grassroots lobbying, fundraising, and private investigation in New York over the past two years with respect to Facebook. It’s a serious area I feel Silicon Valley has abdicated its moral obligation to stand up to its own. Hoping we can develop the evidence that comes out of this case into criminal charges for individual engineers and senior officers.

It started after Facebook started getting blamed for landing Trump in the White House, and the pile-on has increased steadily since then. I’m no fan of FB’s extensive use of dark patterns, but the concerted attack on FB is meant as pressure so that Zuck agrees to let FB be used as a great firewall. Thank you, Zuck, for resisting the pressure if indeed you have. It will only increase as 2020 approaches.

Who in particular is trying to set up a great firewall-type situation in the US? That doesn't seem like a legitimate risk to me.

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Create a culture that is so fixated on wealth above all else and this is what happens. When everyone around you is judging you based on what you have and on the successes you've achieved, what motivation does one have to behave morally? God died and the dollar took its place. I know we will one day look back on this in complete confusion as to how we just watched things so clearly destructive destabilize the country.…

> destructive destabilize the country

I don't think Facebook is destabilizing the country. In fact I don't think anything bad at all is happening. Like please explain to me your negative repercussions from Facebook sharing some of their data with Amazon. How did that undermine the country? People have gotten so hysterical about this topic, it's a madness, and that is what's destabilizing the country IMHO.

Like OP is calling to put some of the most brilliant minds in Silicon Valley in jail, which is ridiculous! But if anything like this should happen, I think you gonna see FAANG & Co seriously consider rebasing outside U.S. (well maybe not G)

Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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At this point it is just an investigation. Nobody has been charged with anything. They have to find a law Facebook has broken first, and presumably establish enough evidence that they expect to succeed at a trial.

Yeah, I was kind of writing that under assumption "if it would have been found criminal".

Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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Create a culture that is so fixated on wealth above all else and this is what happens. When everyone around you is judging you based on what you have and on the successes you've achieved, what motivation does one have to behave morally? God died and the dollar took its place. I know we will one day look back on this in complete confusion as to how we just watched things so clearly destructive destabilize the country.…

> destructive destabilize the country I don't think Facebook is destabilizing the country. In fact I don't think anything bad at all is happening. Like please explain to me your negative repercussions from Facebook sharing some of their data with Amazon. How did that undermine the country? People have gotten so hysterical about this topic, it's a madness, and that is what's destabilizing the country IMHO. Like OP is…

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Re: Facebook’s Data Deals Are Under Criminal Investigation

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There has been a tremendous amount of grassroots lobbying, fundraising, and private investigation in New York over the past two years with respect to Facebook. It’s a serious area I feel Silicon Valley has abdicated its moral obligation to stand up to its own. Hoping we can develop the evidence that comes out of this case into criminal charges for individual engineers and senior officers.

What kind of scenario could you see an engineer getting charged? I find that pretty hard to imagine here.
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