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Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by ktpsns »

dotancohen wrote: post #22
ktpsns wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Different releases tend to vary greatly in terms of stability. Second that. Had great and worse times with Kdenlive. My general feeling: KDE software tends to be more unstable (i.e. crash or freeze more frequently) then GNOME software. But they have in general more features. Just compare the KDE office suite, Calligra, against OpenOffice (which is however not related to GNOME). It is amazing at what speed KDE softw…

What features does Calligra have that are lacking in LibreOffice? LibreOffice's word processor is actually one of the most feature-rich Linux software that I can think of. The presentation and spreadsheet do need some work, though.

Yep. Didn't want to compare Calligra and LibreOffice in detail, just tell that the GNOME office programs are much more rudimentary then the KDEs. It's a quite unobjective, unqualified statement about a consumer's expression of the state of an OSS ecosystem.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by detaro »

Brosper wrote: post #29

Why this project is not on for ex. GitHub?

Because KDE as a major and old open-source community doesn't like to use proprietary hosting services when they have their own infrastructure (and probably had their own infrastructure before Github even existed?)

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by Paianni »

phosphophyllite wrote: post #7
noodlesUK wrote: post #2

One of the things the Linux desktop sorely needs is a good video editor. I’ve heard of kdenlive before but never tried it. How is it (both for experienced users doing complex editing and for newbies just wanting to trim some footage)? I’ve also seen that black magic’s editor is available for Linux, but it is an enormous package...

Linux desktop needs consistency and freedom (yes, open source desktop needs freedom). Freedom of updating and installing newer versions of software without waiting for maintainer/distro half of year to build new package (outdated next week because it's STABLE package). This is main problem of any linux desktop initiative - linux users get newer gimp after windows users. Hope snaps/flatpack/appimage solve this problem…

The problem is that there is no 'base system' for the Linux kernel to attach to, the implementations vary widely. If one of the core BSDs were widely adopted, the practise of developers building binaries as they do for Windows and macOS would be more feasible.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by vytviytffdpoi »

monetus wrote: post #25
bingerman wrote: post #16

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I personally solved this by switching to antergos (which is based on arch, but fully usable out of the box). Been running the same installation without any problems for about 5 years now, completely updated irregularly. Using "stable" distros makes little sense for other than complete newbies and enterprise-like critical usage and such imo. If you don't need bleeding edge stuff they are a good choice though, but for…

I've been eyeing antergos. Any hardware problems along the way?

Hardware support is pretty solid, since the kernel, like all packages, is fairly up to date. There's also an option to install proprietary GPU drivers out of the box. And when reinstalling an old ThinkPad, it was also the only distro among the few I had handy that actually came with the correct Intel wifi firmware so I could, you know, install. Two thumbs up for Antergos.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by eitland »

Brosper wrote: post #29

Why this project is not on for ex. GitHub?

You mean why they are using git as intended instead of introducing a single point of failure? ;-)

Many in the free software movement shun commercial software. To make things worse, GitHub recently got aquired by one of free softwares old enemies.

Personally I've used and even recommended GitHub before Gitlab became available and I don't shun them or even Microsoft, but I also see where they might be coming from.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by phosphophyllite »

bibyte wrote: post #26
phosphophyllite wrote: post #10

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MacOS model is real solution. Like really. Windows + chocolatey or macos + brew (cask) is better than any repository with dependencies on linux. Also, do not want Arch or any - I just want LINUX (or Desktop Linux). One predictable system, instead of many kinds/variants of basically the same programs - one system to hate, one system to deal with. (Arch wiki is good though)

> Also, do not want Arch or any - I just want LINUX (or Desktop Linux). What do you mean ? How can you have Linux without using a distro ? Are you saying there should be one official distro instead of many ?

Well, at this point it's very complicated.

And this is why I think snap/flatpack/etc model ("system" in system) is real solution for linux desktop.

Valve's Steam client already achieved same thing: provided one "sdk" for apps, one runtime (that developer can rely on) - because you can't have one main linux organisation like microsoft and apple.

Re: Kdenlive: an open-source video editor

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Post by mercure »

ktpsns wrote: post #11
mikekchar wrote: post #6

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I've used Kdenlive pretty extensively (as a hobbyist). It has an impressive collections of features. Different releases tend to vary greatly in terms of stability. I've had it eat my project (and even corrupt save files). Back up frequently if you use it. The last time I used it, it was pretty stable, so possibly they are improving in that area. My biggest complaint is that the workflow is tedious . There are absolut…

> Different releases tend to vary greatly in terms of stability. Second that. Had great and worse times with Kdenlive. My general feeling: KDE software tends to be more unstable (i.e. crash or freeze more frequently) then GNOME software. But they have in general more features. Just compare the KDE office suite, Calligra, against OpenOffice (which is however not related to GNOME). It is amazing at what speed KDE softw…

> > Different releases tend to vary greatly in terms of stability.

> Second that. Had great and worse times with Kdenlive.

Agree also. Two elements of hope regarding stability : - The timeline refactoring is nearly completed - A nice fuzzing system has been added, which should really help : see https://kdenlive.org/en/2019/03/inside-kdenlive-how-to-fuzz-...

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