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Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by markdown »

pbreit wrote: post #5

Unpopular opinion: I don’t like this. Would much prefer that ideas compete. Id sort of give Amazon a pass since, unlike twitter, Reddit, Facebook & YouTube, it doesn’t make many promises regarding the free exchange of ideas. But still.

I mean, if you made a documentary about it being physically impossible to incinerate 6M humans in the span of time the nazi's had to do it in the ovens that they had to do it in, you'd get banned from Amazon before you could so much as publish your video.

But you believing such a fringe nazi conspiracy theory couldn't kill me or my neighbour. My children wouldn't be at a real risk of dying from spending time with your kids, even if you indoctrinated them in your beliefs.

Some ideas are too dangerous to even get the chance to compete, especially in a country like USA with an education system so broken that 40% of its people believe that Psychic mediums can actually talk to the dead.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by everybodyknows »

lugg wrote: post #3

It would be better to leave them up but force a disclaimer to scroll along the bottom the entire doco proclaiming factless and fictional in nature. I don't think hiding from these issues is the appropriate response. Nor is pouring gasoline on the fire fueling these conspiracy theories.

Are there pro-vaccination documentaries, that Amazon could promote? If not, our indie documentarists are asleep at their cameras ...

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by adrr »

freedomben wrote: post #19
adrr wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

There are some that would say that a government should not be able to force you to inject things into your own or your children's bodies. They would call that tyranny. Much of the pro-choice argument regarding abortion is based on the idea that you own your own body. My kids get vaccinated, but I sympathize with the anti-vaxxers arguments regarding governmental force.

Vaccinating your child is basic medical care for your child. Your child has a right to life and my child has the right not to get whooping cough and possibly die from it.

If you don't believe in vaccines, don't have kids.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by chrismcb »

asteli wrote: post #14
pbreit wrote: post #5

Unpopular opinion: I don’t like this. Would much prefer that ideas compete. Id sort of give Amazon a pass since, unlike twitter, Reddit, Facebook & YouTube, it doesn’t make many promises regarding the free exchange of ideas. But still.

To me, this action says "We have chosen not to publish material, that is based on indisputably false premises, that may harm viewers and the public at large." That sounds like an acceptable line to me.

But is that true? Did they remove all videos based on false premises? And how did they decide the premise was false?

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by _red »

throwawaymath wrote: post #29

Fantastic. I would be thrilled to see other tech companies declare a holy war against this kind of misinformation. In fact, it would make me ecstatic if they started doing the same with other topics that have overwhelming scientific consensus, like climate change. I frankly don't care if it's censorship. It's a hill I'll happily die on.

You like "science" but can't actually read the insert. Why?

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by amerkhalid »

asteli wrote: post #14
pbreit wrote: post #5

Unpopular opinion: I don’t like this. Would much prefer that ideas compete. Id sort of give Amazon a pass since, unlike twitter, Reddit, Facebook & YouTube, it doesn’t make many promises regarding the free exchange of ideas. But still.

To me, this action says "We have chosen not to publish material, that is based on indisputably false premises, that may harm viewers and the public at large." That sounds like an acceptable line to me.

Agreed, there is just too much junk out there. There should be some sort of editorial control especially when it is a paid service.

I personally expect Netflix, Hulu, and Amazon Prime Video to provide some sort of filtering. YouTube, on other hand, I don't expect any editorial control there and also for same reasons, I will never let my kid to access it alone.

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Post by SquishyPanda23 »

freedomben wrote: post #19
adrr wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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There are some that would say that a government should not be able to force you to inject things into your own or your children's bodies. They would call that tyranny. Much of the pro-choice argument regarding abortion is based on the idea that you own your own body. My kids get vaccinated, but I sympathize with the anti-vaxxers arguments regarding governmental force.

When you have an abortion it doesn't risk a disease outbreak that threatens the lives and health of large numbers of children.

Even hardcore government-distrusting libertarians acknowledge some version of the harm principle.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by throwawaymath »

freedomben wrote: post #19
adrr wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

There are some that would say that a government should not be able to force you to inject things into your own or your children's bodies. They would call that tyranny. Much of the pro-choice argument regarding abortion is based on the idea that you own your own body. My kids get vaccinated, but I sympathize with the anti-vaxxers arguments regarding governmental force.

I don't know, I'm pretty okay with the government forcing people to do things so they don't compromise herd immunity.

I suppose it's cruel, but I find it hard to sympathize with people whose ignorant convictions are a disease vector.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by freedomben »

melling wrote: post #26
freedomben wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are some that would say that a government should not be able to force you to inject things into your own or your children's bodies. They would call that tyranny. Much of the pro-choice argument regarding abortion is based on the idea that you own your own body. My kids get vaccinated, but I sympathize with the anti-vaxxers arguments regarding governmental force.

It's a bit of a public health nuisance when kids start dying because other people don't want their kids to get a measles shot It's hard to believe that tens of thousands of kids still die from the measles every year.

I don't disagree. I personally think it's irresponsible not to vaccinate your kids. I also support schools and such requiring vaccinations for attendance (although that gets murky when the government runs the school).

But using the government to forcibly inject stuff into people's bodies seems wrong.

Re: Amazon Removed Anti-Vax Documentaries from Prime Video

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Post by mateo1 »

_red wrote: post #25
throwawaymath wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mind helping us interpret this? I'm not picking up from this what you probably intend.

Now this is just one vaccine, and its not wise to extrapolate wholesale. However, this one clearly states: there have been no controlled trials adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza from using this product. Note: Its curious I'm being downvoted for actually posted an actual insert, which has real scientific information. You would think all the "science lovers" would applaud that. Ho hum, I guess I should'v…

don't expect them to enjoy facts. They just want their cult to prevail. They'd love to delete your "anti-vaccination" comment. Facts that go against their desires are evil propaganda and should be deleted too.
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