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Re: Facebook Will Shut Down Its Spyware VPN App Onavo

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Post by rchaud »

bredren wrote: post #5
cobbzilla wrote: post #2

> A Facebook spokesperson claimed in a statement that “there was nothing ‘secret’ about this”, yet it had threatened legal action if users publicly discussed the Research program. Will wonders never cease?

The cavalier attitude says to me that this company is still a start up at heart. Early-stage companies often break a lot of rules that’s how you get big. Facebook is just still doing it.

The attitude says to me "We've lied or misled the public so often, they're not even going to try to pin us down on this tiny one".

Re: Facebook Will Shut Down Its Spyware VPN App Onavo

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Post by icebraining »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #17
Mirioron wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Governments need to stop trying to regulate everything so hard it stifles business then. Without Uber taxis would be even worse than they are today.

In the USA perhaps. Some of the other countries they operate in had and have taxis, and food delivery, that work just fine. All Uber has done is introduce unreliable, heavily subsidised - and therefore unfair - competition. It's the Walmart model: Make a loss until the others go under thanks to deepest pockets. When none remain, raise prices markedly.

Not just in the US; I live in Europe and fully welcomed Uber's arrival. And as I expected, after they opened the market many more competitors came, so I don't even have to keep using them. In a moment they'll go under due to their unsustainable model, leaving more decent companies in charge.

Re: Facebook Will Shut Down Its Spyware VPN App Onavo

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Post by NeedMoreTea »

icebraining wrote: post #32
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the USA perhaps. Some of the other countries they operate in had and have taxis, and food delivery, that work just fine. All Uber has done is introduce unreliable, heavily subsidised - and therefore unfair - competition. It's the Walmart model: Make a loss until the others go under thanks to deepest pockets. When none remain, raise prices markedly.

Not just in the US; I live in Europe and fully welcomed Uber's arrival. And as I expected, after they opened the market many more competitors came, so I don't even have to keep using them. In a moment they'll go under due to their unsustainable model, leaving more decent companies in charge.

Oh I'm sure there's plenty of places where they've helped.

I think you're right about the future though - unlike a Walmart I see precious little lock-in for Uber.

Re: Facebook Will Shut Down Its Spyware VPN App Onavo

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Post by Mirioron »

lozenge wrote: post #26
Mirioron wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would much rather Google allow this and let users decide than the opposite.

It's trivial to install Google-unlisted software, so users can decide either way.

It isn't trivial. I don't think my parents will ever be able to install software that Google doesn't like on their phone.
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