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Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by strken »

dmortin wrote: post #27
reificator wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But when ads are so user-hostile that they sometimes include malware, that's when I lose sympathy for the ad-supported web.

Ad networks strive to filter these out, so it's not an argument against ads. Otherwise, you could say let's not use, for example, app stores, because sometimes malicious apps can get through the checks.

I would really like to avoid app stores, too. Unfortunately F-Droid has been unreliable for me - https://f-droid.org/en/packages/ is down right now, for instance.

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by golemiprague »

I don't mind ads but I don't want scripts spying on me, making things slow or even worst, installing viruses and all kind of malicious stuff. For kids there is also a problem that sometimes the content of the ads is not appropriate for their age. If there was an ad blocker that just block those things but still shows the ads I would be fine with it.

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by underwater »

dmortin wrote: post #25
satokema wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OSX has a keybind that lets you drag the exact rectangle to capture, so all I do is keybind, drag, upload to my intended recipient instead of Mozilla's servers.

Apparently, Windows has it too (snipping tool), so it looks like the firefox tool is not necessary.

Windows has a new tool if you hit Windows + Shift + S, which feels a bit closer to the macOS version and less like a Windows app from 1999.

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by fzzzy »

satokema wrote: post #21
dmortin wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I hate Mozilla pushing their own things almost as much as Google (a screenshot service? I have a keybinding for that, thank you) The screenshot feature is quite handy, because it lets you capture only a certain element on the page which is more cumbersome using the OS' builting screen capture, because then you need to edit the captured image.

OSX has a keybind that lets you drag the exact rectangle to capture, so all I do is keybind, drag, upload to my intended recipient instead of Mozilla's servers.

(I worked on screenshots)

Sure, but firefox has knowledge about the geometry of the dom, so you just click on the element you want and it intelligently sizes the shot for you.

Also, before it was screenshots it was Page Shot, and it allowed full text search of the text in your screenshots. Management killed that before launch for some reason.

Finally,d you’ve always been able to save the shot locally instead of uploading it to the server, and you’ll be happy, because the server is going away later this year and you’ll only be able to save them locally.

You may know how to use your os screenshot tool, but we got a lot of positive feedback from non power users who don’t. Right-click->Take screenshot is a lot more discoverable than command-shift-4.

It mystifies me why people hate features they don’t use. So you don’t like it — so what? Other people do. You are the one generating the hate for no reason.

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by anoncake »

faitswulff wrote: post #8
satokema wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate Mozilla pushing their own things almost as much as Google (a screenshot service? I have a keybinding for that, thank you) but this will probably be the straw that makes me jump ship. There's always IceCat I guess. Websites get away with loading files from a ridiculous number of third-party servers and it's pretty frightening when you look at the uMatrix tab for it.

They're deprecating the service, though the feature will remain.

> They're deprecating the service

Looks like they're serious about imitating Google

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by pmlnr »

jviide wrote: post #6
nicoburns wrote: post #2

It might sound dramatic, but if they do block or cripple ad blockers, then I think that could represent a turning point in Chrome's popularity. Even my non-technical friends use an ad blocker, and it's also one of the best defenses from viruses on the modern web, so people who do family tech support are likely to be pretty proactive in ensuring that the computers they look after are running browsers with ads blocked.

(Original tweeter here.) It seems that this is already fixed in Chrome 73 beta: https://twitter.com/jviide/status/1097199686849581057 Also setting "Enable network service" to disabled in chrome://flags appears to fix it: https://twitter.com/jviide/status/1097202611806261248

Real bug or test to see if anyone notices? I'm getting uncomfortably skeptical when it comes to google these days.

Re: Web page service workers bypass ad-blockers after Chrome 72 upgrade?

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Post by x15 »

will_pseudonym wrote: post #11
nicoburns wrote: post #2

It might sound dramatic, but if they do block or cripple ad blockers, then I think that could represent a turning point in Chrome's popularity. Even my non-technical friends use an ad blocker, and it's also one of the best defenses from viruses on the modern web, so people who do family tech support are likely to be pretty proactive in ensuring that the computers they look after are running browsers with ads blocked.

Blocking ads for non-savvy/elderly users is definitely a security issue. It's reducing the chance that they inadvertently install malware or fall into a social engineering scam because "Microsoft Support" needs their credit card number to secure their computer.

I was not aware of these scams thanks to using ad blockers and not living in a country that is being targeted that much. A good way to educate elders might be by showing them some scam videos [1]

[1] https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm22FAXZMw1BaWeFszZxUKw/vid...

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