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Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Question 2 is "What have you done so far that shows your potential for greatness, adjusted for whatever life circumstances you were born into?" TBH, I'm not sure I would want a ticket to the narcissist convention that question implies. The obituary question is a great question IMO.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Great individuals exist, they can do humanity-advancing feats of greatness essentially by themselves. Put a bunch of greats together though, and you can get truly amazing things not possible from a single mind, and what's more create an environment for maximal expression of each individual's greatness.

If YC's goal here is to try and bring together great (or potentially great) individuals, that's fine, but perhaps there are better approaches.[0] Perhaps it's a bad approach having the second and third questions as they are when they're going to filter out great people like Bryan. The second question's qualifier for "life circumstances" is such a cop-out too... Yes it's "great" if you came up from nothing and somehow managed to go to college and get a nice well-paying stable job, surpassing the achievements of at least your ancestors in living memory, but that isn't actually greatness.

On the other hand maybe the two bad questions are by design, Google interview style, trying to weed out false positives for whatever their goal is no matter the (potentially counterfactual) false negatives. It trivially filters me out correctly; I have no potential for greatness, and in the best case I don't plan on dying so there'd be no obituary.

[0] Might I suggest a method that would probably be more effective, at least for collecting potentially great scientists, Asimov's Sword. (http://www.gwern.net/docs/culture/1963-asimov) Target 10-to-15-year-olds already reading good sci-fi.

Edit: a reply highlighted some ambiguity in my usage of "like Bryan" but they deleted it before I replied back.. here's clearing it up anyway.

YC120's phrasing is a problem in filtering out literally Bryan from the 20 if they had plans to ask him, but I was more aiming to describe filtering out people like Bryan from the 100 based on having similar responses.

I knew a guy in high school with a good supply of "intelligence, drive and vision" who had started working with a local university team around something to do with MEMS fabrication. Let's assume YC120 if it was around then would have been interested to have him as part of the 100, and that it'd be useful to him to expand his network beyond that university or academia in general for the grand possibility of getting a group together in the future to do for MEMS what Fairchild Semiconductor did for semiconductors. That sort of vision is all pointless if he were to have a similar reaction to Bryan's or other commenters here, either due to the second question giving off vibes of joining a group of narcissists or the example interests on the page (gene editing, solving physics, etc.) pointing exclusively at a particular subset of SV's fashions. Either he'd filter himself or maybe the reactions are on to something and an earnest application would be filtered by YC for insufficient alignment on greatness potential or SV-compatible interests.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

#33

If a potential investor asks you basic questions about your ambitions and you interpret it as "offensive" and "an attack on Silicon Valley", and you end up at William Shockley, I think that says more about you than them. Bryan is clearly passionate about his beliefs, which probably works great for people who share them. Sometimes I wonder if 2013 Bryan ( https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Ben-Noordhuis-decide-to-leave-...…

We could all possibly fire our past selves for things we currently don't agree with, that's why we call them mistakes and not certainties.

Some of us are able to learn from failures and regrets through trial and error, the consequences and being more aware we could be hurting others. Unfortunately, past blunders are easily referenced, overly embellished + manipulated and quickly judged in the present, as if it were a representation to the entirety of that persons true character. Which is wrong.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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I'd agree with you if it was someone like Goldman Sachs or HSBC that I wanted to get funding from. I wouldn't criticize them like this because I know it would fall into deaf ears. I think the reason we criticize YC is we believe the people at the top actually care about more than their own quarterly bonus.

I think the issue you're bringing up is valid but is just a dark-side of VC in general than just a problem with YC. Startups and VCs tend to bang on about community values a whole lot more than they actually care, if at all, in contrast, big corps at least don't pretend as much, though it seems like that is changing with recent shift of marketing trends.

I think the "problem with YC", and in a larger perspective SV, these days is quite specific. What makes, or made, these environments different is that they weren't made for geniuses so much as taking overall average people with an interest in technology and giving them the opportunity to use that interest to build something new instead of it getting lost at some random corporate job. The same way a new music scene isn't usually made up of child music prodigies. But now they are seemingly moving away from that.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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Great individuals exist, they can do humanity-advancing feats of greatness essentially by themselves. Put a bunch of greats together though, and you can get truly amazing things not possible from a single mind, and what's more create an environment for maximal expression of each individual's greatness. If YC's goal here is to try and bring together great (or potentially great) individuals, that's fine, but perhaps th…

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Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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I realize this is a touchy subject, but here goes: I especially appreciate how there is no talk of innovation or ideas, which in my mind, is what YC stands for. Instead (interpreted as an outsider), a rant on unfamiliar, incumbent (sf?) issues/frustrations. Somewhat obvious that YC is looking for new blood.

Somewhat obvious that YC is looking for new blood.

Definitely, and it should, otherwise it won't outlast the next (looming) market correction. And I don't mind YC trying a new tack; I mind that they still don't get it. Bryan is right. True innovators care only about the problem and their ideas. Few who are concerned about what their obit will say will ever do anything great.

You can fund innovation or you can make money off of previous innovation. Silicon Valley has been doing the latter for so long that it has forgotten that the former is even possible.

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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If there is anything you need as a founder it is self confidence. Bryan is right that it takes teamwork to do great things, but first you need to convince others to follow your lead. People with good self confidence contribute success to themselves and failure because of things outside their reach. It however helps to have a healthy dose of self awareness, and have both feet on the ground (metaphorically).

Re: Anti-Application video for YC120

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"What do you want your obituary to say?" Is this really one of the questions? So, it's funny, I tell people there's usually two kinds of people. Those that want to be a and those who want to have been an . The former enjoys the journey. The latter wants to skip to the end. This question seems like it is targeting the latter group. Shouldn't YC be trying to target the former?

Not sure I see the distinction here?

I mean, if you want to invent a flying car, if successful you'll be the inventor of the flying car, and your obituary will say so.

The question just seems like a roundabout way of asking "Tell us how your startup idea is going get huge and stay huge for ages"

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