Sweden's leave of absence system helps workers launch their own business

Post by zmodem » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 2:42 PM UTC

mrmekon wrote: post #13

Since maternity and paternity leave are frequently more than 6 months long, employees temporarily leaving for a big chunk of the year is just a fact of doing business here. Granting unpaid leave to go try your own thing for a while is, from the employer's perspective, not any different. Some people never come back, most people do. The same is true for parental leave (many quit their jobs towards the end of their leav…

Post by cr1895 » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 2:49 PM UTC

wjjdjw wrote: post #27

maxxxxx wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I first learned about this type of contract I couldn’t even believe the concept. How can anybody think it’s ok that a company can claim and kind of ownership over things an employee does in his free time? I have signed up for 40 hours a week and not for being fully owned by the company. What happens if you work another job and invent things there? Do the companies own each other’s stuff?

So would you assume you can work 40 hr and trade secrets from your employer as a side hustle, just because it's not happening within the work time?

Post by vonmoltke » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 2:51 PM UTC

2019ideas wrote: post #21

maxsilver wrote: post #15

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> The fear is that otherwise you will quit. Hiring is hard here, so it's better to have a promise of someone coming back in 6 months than a job opening that can take 12 months to fill. This is what a strong economy actually looks like. It's hard (in my experience) to get Americans to understand this, because our economy here has been so bad for so long, most people here have never experienced anything like this.

>This is what a strong economy actually looks like. No mention of wages and jobs. In Electrical Engineering(US), its vicious the amount of competition trying to get me. Vacation policy? Unpaid, but at 60$/hr, I just afford to take 3 weeks of vacation, but 2 weeks of holidays too.

Post by hopefulengineer » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 2:51 PM UTC

maxsilver wrote: post #15

mrmekon wrote: post #13

Since maternity and paternity leave are frequently more than 6 months long, employees temporarily leaving for a big chunk of the year is just a fact of doing business here. Granting unpaid leave to go try your own thing for a while is, from the employer's perspective, not any different. Some people never come back, most people do. The same is true for parental leave (many quit their jobs towards the end of their leav…

> The fear is that otherwise you will quit. Hiring is hard here, so it's better to have a promise of someone coming back in 6 months than a job opening that can take 12 months to fill. This is what a strong economy actually looks like. It's hard (in my experience) to get Americans to understand this, because our economy here has been so bad for so long, most people here have never experienced anything like this.

Post by 52-6F-62 » Thu, Feb 07, 2019, 2:54 PM UTC

piker wrote: post #3

52-6F-62 wrote: post #2

I think this is brilliant, but I’m interested to hear criticisms or arguments against it.

Even assuming there's a de minimis exemption for small businesses, one unintended consequence could be increasing employment costs which would negatively effect business formation by disproportionately favoring established entities that could afford the luxury.