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We've had success in team ghosting useless product managers, eventually (after 2 years without any output) causing them to leave (out of their own volition, because apparently being hired by C levels protects you from being terminated because it would reflect bad on the hiring C level). Keeping up a trickle stream of half-baked work[0] (to prevent you from being accused of being "non-supportive") worked fine. [0] mat…
It's extremely important that you learn as early as possible in your career that your employer is not your friend. You are only a cog in the wheel to them. All the way up to the top you are replaceable. Once you make this shift in thinking, it opens the doors to you increasing your status in the company, doing more interesting work and making way more money. Stop doing any favours to your employer and start putting y…
This is not universally true. I genuinely care about the people that work for me.
It's extremely important that you learn as early as possible in your career that your employer is not your friend. You are only a cog in the wheel to them. All the way up to the top you are replaceable. Once you make this shift in thinking, it opens the doors to you increasing your status in the company, doing more interesting work and making way more money. Stop doing any favours to your employer and start putting y…
>It's extremely important that you learn as early as possible in your career that your employer is not your friend. You are only a cog in the wheel to them. All the way up to the top you are replaceable. This is not universally true. I genuinely care about the people that work for me.
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>It's extremely important that you learn as early as possible in your career that your employer is not your friend. You are only a cog in the wheel to them. All the way up to the top you are replaceable. This is not universally true. I genuinely care about the people that work for me.
People are great: organizations are less so. Your HR buddy can cry while they kick you off campus, they're still kicking you off campus. Unless they're the board and CEO, it doesn't really matter that the people around you care for you and you care for them. You can see them at the bar afterwards, I suppose.
Working hard might not make you look good to "the company" but it can make you look good to your supervisor(s) which (except in the event of things like mass-layoffs) has a huge impact on how the company treats you.
It's extremely important that you learn as early as possible in your career that your employer is not your friend. You are only a cog in the wheel to them. All the way up to the top you are replaceable. Once you make this shift in thinking, it opens the doors to you increasing your status in the company, doing more interesting work and making way more money. Stop doing any favours to your employer and start putting y…
But none of these things happen often enough to make it "a thing". This article is basically some anecdotes about things that have happened, but not any type of regular occurrence in most professional industries. A high school or college kid is thousands of times more likely to quit without giving notice than anyone in a professional environment.
If there is any takeaway in this article:
* Your loyalty must be to yourself and your career. The days of employers seeming to take care of employees are over other than some rare occasions. You must make career decisions strictly based on what is best for your career and earning potential (short and long term).
* Do your research - These companies that pull job offers on people probably have some history of doing it, and there are plenty of websites that offer horror stories. Ask around and do some research if the company you're speaking to doesn't have much reputation or credibility online or in the public domain.
* Be professional - Especially in tech, career fluidity is much more common now than it was even 15 years ago. 2-4 year stints at companies are the norm. What does this mean? It means that your potential network is exponentially bigger than it would be if tenures were 10-15 years and turnover was low - you are working with a larger number of peers over your career, and those peers are going on to work for many other companies. You work for a 50-person startup that collapses, and those employees maybe join 30 other firms. Now your reputation (good or bad) has reached 30 firms. Bad news spreads. Give proper notice and treat employers as you'd like to be treated - hopefully they will reciprocate.
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I agree that from the employees' standpoint more is better, but should there be a connection between expected length of notice and expected amount of severance? I believe in Europe the expected notice periods are significantly longer.
In France on a CDI (permanent contract) above a certain level the usual notice period is 3 months.
But it swings both ways in these countries; you can't terminate someone on the spot. The employer must fulfil the notice period too (or, at least pay you for it)
It's extremely important that you learn as early as possible in your career that your employer is not your friend. You are only a cog in the wheel to them. All the way up to the top you are replaceable. Once you make this shift in thinking, it opens the doors to you increasing your status in the company, doing more interesting work and making way more money. Stop doing any favours to your employer and start putting y…
>It's extremely important that you learn as early as possible in your career that your employer is not your friend. You are only a cog in the wheel to them. All the way up to the top you are replaceable. This is not universally true. I genuinely care about the people that work for me.
We've had success in team ghosting useless product managers, eventually (after 2 years without any output) causing them to leave (out of their own volition, because apparently being hired by C levels protects you from being terminated because it would reflect bad on the hiring C level). Keeping up a trickle stream of half-baked work[0] (to prevent you from being accused of being "non-supportive") worked fine. [0] mat…