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Mastodon for Metalheads

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Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

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Another Mastodon instance hosted in Germany with the same copypasted left-leaning AUP[] from all the other Mastodon instances. What's the reason for this to exist when all Mastodon instances are linked to each other and this instance has the same ruleset and is hosted in the same country than the rest of instances? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the way Mastodon works and instances are not linked? [] https://metalhead…

That's not copypasted at all, what the heck are you on about?

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

#32

Another Mastodon instance hosted in Germany with the same copypasted left-leaning AUP[] from all the other Mastodon instances. What's the reason for this to exist when all Mastodon instances are linked to each other and this instance has the same ruleset and is hosted in the same country than the rest of instances? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the way Mastodon works and instances are not linked? [] https://metalhead…

I noticed that too with a lot of instances, the one I settled on has rules that sets off less red flags (and honestly, I'm really tempted to self host)

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

#33
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> If all are connected, why care for which server I connect to? Mastodon is like E-Mail: You chose who hosts your profile. YOu can send messages to people on other servers, but still the server which hosts your account, is your "home server": If it goes down, your account/profile is lost. Also choosing your Mastodon server is about your personal interests: Mastodon servers have local timelines, which only show posts…

>They are quite neutral and generally "human friendly". They are certainly reasonable and human-friendly! But "you shouldn't be xenophobic or transphobic" is still, unfortunately, a relatively left-wing idea. It excludes people who openly hold beliefs that are very popular within the mainstream American right.

Sorry that someone telling you, essentially, "Don't be shitty to people who are different from you" is a left vs right ideological issue for you.

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

#34
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No, it's not. It's asking you to simply not post nasty stuff. It doesn't mean you have to embrace other cultures, sexualities or whatnot. It doeesn't even mean you have to like them. It just means keep any nasty comments about such things to yourself (or go say it elsewhere). It's a really sad time for humanity if common courtesy is now considered "left-wing".

>It doesn't mean you have to embrace other cultures, sexualities or whatnot. The rules literally say: >You shall Fight racism and discrimination Which, on my book, is left wing. (And open to be arbitrarily enforced. How do I prove I've been fighting discrimination?)

This is only a guess, but from the context I would assume that he means that if you see someone posting racist or other discriminatory toots(?) that you should challenge them.

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

#35

Another Mastodon instance hosted in Germany with the same copypasted left-leaning AUP[] from all the other Mastodon instances. What's the reason for this to exist when all Mastodon instances are linked to each other and this instance has the same ruleset and is hosted in the same country than the rest of instances? Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the way Mastodon works and instances are not linked? [] https://metalhead…

I noticed that too with a lot of instances, the one I settled on has rules that sets off less red flags (and honestly, I'm really tempted to self host)

I am very interested; I've been unable to find an instance with rules that are not involved in politics. What's that instance?

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

#36
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They are quite neutral and generally "human friendly". They are certainly reasonable and human-friendly! But "you shouldn't be xenophobic or transphobic" is still, unfortunately, a relatively left-wing idea. It excludes people who openly hold beliefs that are very popular within the mainstream American right.

Sorry that someone telling you, essentially, "Don't be shitty to people who are different from you" is a left vs right ideological issue for you.

Under those rules, for example, you can be expected to get banned for saying "refugees do not belong in Europe", which is not a personal attack and is pretty much a normal right-wing stance to take.

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

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Metal has quite a few name collisions, but perhaps the most unfortunate is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis_(band)

That’s an unfortunate name collision everywhere. I know three women, all over 30, who chose the name Isis, and a kid who was given it and goes by Tara now.

The River Thames through Oxford is locally known as the Isis, so there are dozens of businesses called things like the 'Isis Guest House'. Many of them have rebranded.

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

#38
As someone else has pointed out, Mastodon is only one implementation of ActivityPub/OStatus, and arguably not the best (especially if you prefer Elixir/Phoenix, but I digress).

Would it be appropriate to request we stop referring to a mastodon (software) instance as anything other than an ActivityPub/OStatus instance? A more terse name would be ideal but naming is hard and I've not had enough coffee to be creative yet today.

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It doesn't mean you have to embrace other cultures, sexualities or whatnot. The rules literally say: >You shall Fight racism and discrimination Which, on my book, is left wing. (And open to be arbitrarily enforced. How do I prove I've been fighting discrimination?)

This is only a guess, but from the context I would assume that he means that if you see someone posting racist or other discriminatory toots(?) that you should challenge them.

So if they check server-side that I've read a "discriminatory toot" (whatever that means) and I haven't "challenged the guy" (whatever that means) or reported him I can expect to be banned?

Re: Mastodon for Metalheads

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is only a guess, but from the context I would assume that he means that if you see someone posting racist or other discriminatory toots(?) that you should challenge them.

So if they check server-side that I've read a "discriminatory toot" (whatever that means) and I haven't "challenged the guy" (whatever that means) or reported him I can expect to be banned?

Clearly the intent of that line is just that people should feel encouraged to report any hate speech.

I don't really understand why you've taken such an objection to the very concept of keeping hurtful comments to yourself on some specific public forums; but in any case I get the feeling that you're now just arguing for the sake of arguing.

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