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Digitized minutes of Royal Society meetings taken between 1686 and 1711

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Is it only me? I think I lost the ability to read cursive handwriting. I tried reading a few pages, and it is really hard for me to follow what is written.

There's actually an entire thing that historians need to learn called Paleography since old documents tend to be nearly incomprehensible to laypeople. Its not just you!

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post #23

The book, "The Fellowship", references these meeting minutes, along with other research from this period in time: https://www.amazon.com/Fellowship-Gilbert-Newton-Scientific-...

Neal Stephenson’s Baroque Cycle also covers the Royal Society at this time in history.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Short answer is that, on a very long time horizon, I think drug laws probably are just a phase that will go away. But socially- or religiously-enforced policing of conduct is as old as human culture itself, so even if drugs become decriminalized, the tendency to proclaim some substances or actions "taboo" is unlikely to ever disappear. The specific actions/substances in question can change fairly quickly, however.

Maybe criminalizing religions would be an answer. It is fascinating how perception of drugs changes over time. Even the Dutch royal family had a cocaine manufacturing site last century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandsche_Coca%C3%AFnefabr...

... because restricting peoples freedom of association would be great revenge for restricting drug use?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does any of the meeting minutes contain a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Wilhelm_Leibniz that you know of ?

First page of the 1707-1711 editions, I found this sentence, sure there's likely more ... "A proposall was read by Dr. Papin concerning a new invented [deleted] to be row'd with oars mov'd by heat. The farther consideration of It was also referred to ye. next meeting. A letter was read from Mr. Leibnitz concerning Mr. Papin & this new boat."

Some context around Papin and his boat from wikipedia[1] for those interested:

> In 1705 he developed a second steam engine with the help of Gottfried Leibniz, based on an invention by Thomas Savery, but this used steam pressure rather than atmospheric pressure. Details of the engine were published in 1707.

> Papin returned to London in 1707, leaving his wife in Germany. Several of his papers were put before the Royal Society between 1707 and 1712 without acknowledging or paying him, about which he complained bitterly. Papin's ideas included a description of his 1690 atmospheric steam engine, similar to that built and put into use by Thomas Newcomen in 1712, thought to be the year of Papin's death.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Papin

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post #30

For those that are interested in what else the Royal Society archives hold, I wholly recommend the Objectivity YouTube Channel ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtwKon9qMt5YLVgQt1tvJKg ) created by Brady Haran (of Periodic Videos, Numberphile, Computerphile, etc.)

I second that recommendation. I've watched a number of Objectivity videos and the content is amazing and fascinating for those interested in the history of science and people at the Royal Society (and occasionally other scientifically historical places).

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post #11

Is it only me? I think I lost the ability to read cursive handwriting. I tried reading a few pages, and it is really hard for me to follow what is written.

This kind of stuff is a good candidate for Zooniverse. Have a look at some of the ship log projects, for example.

Thank you for mentioning this! I'd never heard of Zooniverse, but it looks very interesting.

Have you used Zooniverse in the past? If so, what was the outcome/experience like?

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe criminalizing religions would be an answer. It is fascinating how perception of drugs changes over time. Even the Dutch royal family had a cocaine manufacturing site last century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandsche_Coca%C3%AFnefabr...

... because restricting peoples freedom of association would be great revenge for restricting drug use?

There are different practices on which different organized religions depend to keep the "count of the believers" steady and their influence strong which could actually be criminalized when there were enough consciousness and willingness (without disallowing individuals believers to believe). But there surely isn't enough willingness, especially not in the US where publicly "non-believing" more or less excludes you from the politics (shouldn't that be changed for the start?) and the religion organizations have the status of the... sacred cows.

Looking back, there were many very good reasons why the religions were not put in the constitution.

Re: Digitized minutes of Royal Society meetings taken between 1686 and 1711

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Short answer is that, on a very long time horizon, I think drug laws probably are just a phase that will go away. But socially- or religiously-enforced policing of conduct is as old as human culture itself, so even if drugs become decriminalized, the tendency to proclaim some substances or actions "taboo" is unlikely to ever disappear. The specific actions/substances in question can change fairly quickly, however.

Maybe criminalizing religions would be an answer. It is fascinating how perception of drugs changes over time. Even the Dutch royal family had a cocaine manufacturing site last century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nederlandsche_Coca%C3%AFnefabr...

Criminalizing religion would be like criminalizing sex. It's a behavioral pattern based on instincts of the majority of the population, furthered by social proof and the political necessity of controlling the populace.

I supposed you could try to create a better religion. Do what thou whilst as the basic creed basically - which, incidentally, is what the church of satan preaches :)

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#40

It looks like even the brightest scientific minds of the past forgot to increment the year after January 1. Even as late as March and April in some years.

Might be using the 'official' 25th March date for new year? [1]

The will probably be a 'readme' somewhere on the site about old style dates.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar#Beginning_o...

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