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> More decentralized sites (like the one you proposed with hand curated content) will crop up. I'm personally investigating the Linus Tech Tips forum as an HN alternative since it seems to have the maker and hacker vibes that I used to see here (and on Reddit and JCXP before I found HN). What if gasp mailing lists made a come back? The longer I exist, the longer I realize I don't want the next iteration of Facebook,…
I would love a truly hacker mentality oriented mailing list focusing on doing stuff rather than what's cool/not cool. I don't want to complain about HN, it is what it is and a lot of people like it the way it is. But I'd really like a place where the vast majority of links point to blogs of people doing things in tech, or giving me ideas about what I can do in tech, rather than links to news agencies or news papers o…
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I so rarely come across a commenter who shares this opinion that I feel like I want to hug you. Hacker news has declined in quality. The most precipitous drop in my opinion was right after all the buzz about Facebook becoming less popular, musk joining mastodon and everyone in the comments brainstorming about alternative social media schemes. After that things really took a dive. I think it has to do with the influx…
> Hacker news has declined in quality. Alright, y'all are getting virtual hugs. I agree completely as well. I also agree that the changing trends are a biproduct of the increasing levels of access to software development as a profession. However, I do not think that computer forums should filter out "stupid people". I had the pleasure of hearing Code.org President Alice Steinglass talk about how her professor in unde…
I had a boss who would regularly say "there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers".
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I so rarely come across a commenter who shares this opinion that I feel like I want to hug you. Hacker news has declined in quality. The most precipitous drop in my opinion was right after all the buzz about Facebook becoming less popular, musk joining mastodon and everyone in the comments brainstorming about alternative social media schemes. After that things really took a dive. I think it has to do with the influx…
> Hacker news has declined in quality. Alright, y'all are getting virtual hugs. I agree completely as well. I also agree that the changing trends are a biproduct of the increasing levels of access to software development as a profession. However, I do not think that computer forums should filter out "stupid people". I had the pleasure of hearing Code.org President Alice Steinglass talk about how her professor in unde…
There's an ample amount of hacking (orig. meaning) related content out there, right now. For example, 35c3 was a little less than a month ago and I still watch a talk roughly daily. Centralized way points which attract the normal, average people will evolve eventually in the wrong way and it is RIP TAZ.
And all those who always claim X gets too political: it always was political, everything is. The word you perhaps sought is political polarized (ie. help! my important political view is or has become a minority in this subculture). Looking back at the phreaking culture and telephone history (to give an older example) , politics were involved with Ma Bell right from the get go. After all, they were installed as a monopoly and kept that way _by_ the government.
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#34Clickbait titles, useful advice "how to track user's mouse movement" (!!) , and Europe's osteoporosis. Good times though; for me Hacker news has lost a lot of its appeal in the past 4-5 years, as for some reason it has become overly political and "suits-oriented". I used to read a lot of technical commentary, which i now find on reddit instead.
Agreed, although curious which technical subreddits you are following? I’ve been disappointed with the attitude/irrelevance of HN these years and am looking for new sources to read.
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#35You don't need an archive link to view HN at a given time. https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2007-02-20
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Why does Michael Arrington have the same dead comment on every post?
That's not actually Michael Arrington. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=454679
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#37Clickbait titles, useful advice "how to track user's mouse movement" (!!) , and Europe's osteoporosis. Good times though; for me Hacker news has lost a lot of its appeal in the past 4-5 years, as for some reason it has become overly political and "suits-oriented". I used to read a lot of technical commentary, which i now find on reddit instead.
I so rarely come across a commenter who shares this opinion that I feel like I want to hug you. Hacker news has declined in quality. The most precipitous drop in my opinion was right after all the buzz about Facebook becoming less popular, musk joining mastodon and everyone in the comments brainstorming about alternative social media schemes. After that things really took a dive. I think it has to do with the influx…
It's been in decline almost since it's creation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1723734 [2010]
and still going strong.
Perhaps it's the complaining about "decline" that keeps it great
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#38Clickbait titles, useful advice "how to track user's mouse movement" (!!) , and Europe's osteoporosis. Good times though; for me Hacker news has lost a lot of its appeal in the past 4-5 years, as for some reason it has become overly political and "suits-oriented". I used to read a lot of technical commentary, which i now find on reddit instead.
I believe the reason for this is that everything is political these days. Until Obama, tech companies were not politically relevant (Microsoft and Google as exceptions). Now, social media giants are in worldwide fights including summoning tech execs before parliaments over being abused for propaganda, and even the netiquettes are political now given that a huge number of those who violate them are right-wingers who then in turn whine about "free speech" and "censorship".
Also, the new generation of HN-relevant startups (think Uber, AirBnB, Lyft as the worst offenders) made a point of intentionally breaking laws to make a business at the cost of society. Of coure, politicians now take a close look at how companies backed by seemingly infinite cash reserves negatively affect their communities, and affected people also make their voice heard.
Finally, companies these days are more or less forced by social media pressure to take a stand on highly contested political topics. The most recent examples of this are (internationally) the Gillette ads and (nationally/Germany) a couple adbusters that put up fake Coca-Cola banners warning of our right-wing AfD, with Coca-Cola's communication director tweeting "Not every fake has to be wrong". Mostly those putting up the pressure are on the left-liberal spectrum and the haters right-wingers. In addition the role of systemic racism, sexism and transphobia in the tech and media world, as well as (finally) people speaking up e.g. about sexual assault, got dragged onto the spotlight by #metoo and other viral campaigns.
And of course these debates now also happen on HN - with the difference here that many people are socially liberal, but follow ultra-capitalist economic viewpoints. This makes, in my opinion, political HN debates largely centered around the (negative) effects of SV-style capitalism while there are not many socially conservative or, worse, alt-right trolls on HN.
edit: another thing is, much of the tech scene didn't care much about politics or how their work would be used either. Only now, with employees taking responsibility for what their code does and who uses it and what ethical concerns they have with company policy, massive debates emerge. This includes stuff like Google employees protesting against working for the military, helping censorship in China or how employers react to sexual assault allegations. These debates naturally also leak over to HN, seeing how many employees for FAANG are on this platform.
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#39Especially the point that they tried to build a community where people would actually get to know each other. That didn't scale too well...
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I so rarely come across a commenter who shares this opinion that I feel like I want to hug you. Hacker news has declined in quality. The most precipitous drop in my opinion was right after all the buzz about Facebook becoming less popular, musk joining mastodon and everyone in the comments brainstorming about alternative social media schemes. After that things really took a dive. I think it has to do with the influx…
>HNs decline It's been in decline almost since it's creation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1723734 [2010] and still going strong. Perhaps it's the complaining about "decline" that keeps it great