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Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Post by craz8 »

sandworm101 wrote: post #22
blattimwind wrote: post #16

Also notable for a huge increase in TDP from the next-slower model (255 W vs 165 W) - and it has four fewer cores. > Other details about the chip that we have learned include that it will have a listed TDP of 255W, which means the peak power will be higher. Motherboard vendors will have to support 420 amps on the power delivery for the chip (which at 1.3 volts would be 546 watts), and up to 30 amps per core.

550+ watts is insane. That is spaceheater territory. Residential outlets start tripping at 1500-2000 watts. How soon we will have to run even basic gaming machines off multiple outlets.

There are gaming “laptops” available now that come with 2 power adaptors, as a single 330W is not enough to power the system under full load

For now, they can be on the same circuit

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Post by perl4ever »

tomc1985 wrote: post #23
gruez wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It seems kind of scummy how is it scummy? is because intel's efficiently allocating those CPUs (via auction market), rather than randomly giving them out?

An economist might call it efficient, but most would call it greed

I have come around to the belief that economically efficient behavior can be more ethical. When I have something I want to get rid of, I have tried giving it away, but I learned by experience that people who are first to grab something aren't necessarily those who will make the best use of it or who need it the most. So it may be better for society to sell or auction it even if that has significant overhead. Raising more money isn't even the point; it's a side effect.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

#33

Post by Nullabillity »

geezerjay wrote: post #30
samplatt wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's (a little bit) scummy, because they're selling them on auction, which has a decent chance of flogging them for orders of magnitude more than they'd ordinarily sell them for, with the added bonus that they don't have to honor any warranty stuff since they're going to be clocked to hell.

> It's (a little bit) scummy, because they're selling them on auction, which has a decent chance of flogging them for orders of magnitude more than they'd ordinarily sell them for, It seems to me that demand is far higher than supply, thus the auction ensures that those who really want them will have a realistic shot of getting one. That's far better than having to resort to buying them from price-gouging scalpers.

Buying it at inflated prices from Intel effectively rewards them for their inability to produce more. That seems like the wrong incentive to set.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Post by IanCutress »

bradleyjg wrote: post #18
tareqak wrote: post #5

Quote from the end: "perhaps importantly, there is no warranty from Intel. This means that system builders will not be able to recoup costs on dead silicon, but they might give their own warranty to end users."

Where are these chips going to actually end up? Gamers with more money than sense?

HFT

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Post by kentt »

sandworm101 wrote: post #22
blattimwind wrote: post #16

Also notable for a huge increase in TDP from the next-slower model (255 W vs 165 W) - and it has four fewer cores. > Other details about the chip that we have learned include that it will have a listed TDP of 255W, which means the peak power will be higher. Motherboard vendors will have to support 420 amps on the power delivery for the chip (which at 1.3 volts would be 546 watts), and up to 30 amps per core.

550+ watts is insane. That is spaceheater territory. Residential outlets start tripping at 1500-2000 watts. How soon we will have to run even basic gaming machines off multiple outlets.

This isn't for gaming, or even any normal commercial use. I think Intel and AMD have stayed sane with TDP reqs lately especially for consumers chips.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Post by jacquesm »

Arn_Thor wrote: post #26
sandworm101 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

550+ watts is insane. That is spaceheater territory. Residential outlets start tripping at 1500-2000 watts. How soon we will have to run even basic gaming machines off multiple outlets.

I've never tripped an outlet on less than 2500 watts, and that was an old electrical network... Did I get lucky or do standards vary in different countries?

10 Amp 120V circuits are quite common in the US and Canada.

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Post by artemonster »

Nullabillity wrote: post #33
geezerjay wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's (a little bit) scummy, because they're selling them on auction, which has a decent chance of flogging them for orders of magnitude more than they'd ordinarily sell them for, It seems to me that demand is far higher than supply, thus the auction ensures that those who really want them will have a realistic shot of getting one. That's far better than having to resort to buying them from price-gouging scalpers.

Buying it at inflated prices from Intel effectively rewards them for their inability to produce more. That seems like the wrong incentive to set.

you have no idea how chip manufacturing works, do you? :) its a gamble for them to get such chips

Re: Intel Core I9-9990XE: Up to 5.0 GHz, Auction Only

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Post by std_throwawayay »

blattimwind wrote: post #16

Also notable for a huge increase in TDP from the next-slower model (255 W vs 165 W) - and it has four fewer cores. > Other details about the chip that we have learned include that it will have a listed TDP of 255W, which means the peak power will be higher. Motherboard vendors will have to support 420 amps on the power delivery for the chip (which at 1.3 volts would be 546 watts), and up to 30 amps per core.

TDP doesn't mean much at intel. Expect any performance chip to consume way more than TDP when fully loaded.
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