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Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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The GDPR has already resulted in quite a few websites simply refusing to serve the EU. Will this clinch it? Will the EU be cut off form the internet due to over-regulation that no one wants to put themselves at risk over?

I would love to be cut off from Facebook. Please do it now.

What about other people that like the service? Why don't you stop using it yourself and instead try to forcibly impose your personal ideals on others?

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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This is why we need Esperanto.

Or English as the officially recognised global language ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

With Britain leaving the EU there is sadly a lot less reason for English to be the official language.

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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I'm worried about influencing outcomes in the EU due to language barriers, especially on boring and "unsexy" issues like Internet regulation. It'd be important for the EU to be able to vote for representatives regardless of your primary jurisdiction. Even if I manage to convince most of the representatives from my region, they will be outvoted by the French who had a big hand in passing the proposal forward the last…

This is why we need Esperanto.

We already have a common language that's widely known across Europe (English), it just doesn't have the reach that the native language does.

Some countries are also really self centered in terms of news, etc. Here in Spain, for example, most national news deal mostly with corruption scandals, political issues in Catalonia, sports, and little else. Geopolitical and/or European issues are given surprisingly little time considering we're the fifth largest economy in the union (about to be the fourth after/if the UK leaves).

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or English as the officially recognised global language ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Why not Mandarin?

Because English is one of the simplest languages to learn.

A better question is why not Spanish?

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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I am curious about other interpretations of the impact this law will have. Would it encourage the development of more peer-to-peer sharing networks, which lack a central space to upload? I wish we had the kind of concerted effort that the copyright lobby is able to launch, but focused on issues that reduce the net benefit of these platform more than copyright infringement: hate speech or intentional misinformation.

The popularity of modern streaming services combined with the shortage of IP addresses and subsequent spread of carrier-grade NAT will make it a bit difficult for regular P2P networks to make a come-back. I can, however, imagine this will have result in a small boost for self-hosted content.

I can imagine someone writing a TOR-based eMule client or something along those lines but it won't be anywhere near as common as it was back in the days; ease of use has always been an important factor and today we actually do have commercial alternatives in place this time.

As I see it, the main impact will be for social networks and other sites that allow user uploads. There's an actual chance the people behind the law simply don't understand that what they're asking isn't possible, and that many politicians think we just need to solve this with blockchains and machine learning (because that's apparently how to fix everything nowadays). In the real world, however, I really see no way to comply with that law without mass-monitoring and very far-reaching automatic censorship of uploaded content.

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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I'm worried about influencing outcomes in the EU due to language barriers, especially on boring and "unsexy" issues like Internet regulation. It'd be important for the EU to be able to vote for representatives regardless of your primary jurisdiction. Even if I manage to convince most of the representatives from my region, they will be outvoted by the French who had a big hand in passing the proposal forward the last…

This is the reason that all proposals to the EU are translated to the native language of every nation. As of writing this the documents are available in 24 languages.

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not Mandarin?

Because English is one of the simplest languages to learn. A better question is why not Spanish?

Please stop with this fiction. I bet you never had to learn English as a second language. It's very hard.

Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it

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I'm worried about influencing outcomes in the EU due to language barriers, especially on boring and "unsexy" issues like Internet regulation. It'd be important for the EU to be able to vote for representatives regardless of your primary jurisdiction. Even if I manage to convince most of the representatives from my region, they will be outvoted by the French who had a big hand in passing the proposal forward the last…

> Edit: adding a link to this false-positive emulator script[0] as an example of how stupid the proposal is.

TLDR: In an optimistic estimate, to stop 300 illegitimate copyright infringing posting, we would have to block 150.000 non-infringing posts.

Whoever suggests this as a policy, must have received serious payoffs to close their eyes for the overwhelmingly negative effects this law will have.

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