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Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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> For the purposes of law we do No we don't. That's why we have judges

And judges never give out different sentences based race or affluence....

Is squirrel a race now?

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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> It's technically illegal to have a wild animal as a pet in Brazil, as officials want to ensure vulnerable creatures don't get separated from their families and that they can be reintroduced into the wild after injury. Same where I am. I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? For example, I give peanuts to the wild squirrels around my house. This is not illegal where I live. It is illegal, however, to keep a w…

Legal or no, your coworker should probably be careful. Raccoons are one of the main rabies carriers in the US. Of course, if it was actually a pet, presumably your coworker could have gotten the raccoon vaccinated.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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To get a bit pedantic you're on the path to domesticating those squirrels, most wildlife professionals wouldn't consider them wild any more. My father worked for WI DNR for many years and it always irked him that people feeding the wildlife didn't think they were doing any harm when they were making the animals co-dependent on that food source.

Reposting from below. Eastern grey squirrels were deliberately introduced into city parks for the enjoyment of people.[1] Also wild animals are flexible enough in their behaviour to accommodate interactions with humans. If you observe them carefully, you can see them switch from 'normal' behaviour to the behaviour they use when interacting with people. It's kind of like when you speak two languages and can switch fro…

Sure, but that's not really relevant here. The parent still considers them 'wild' despite providing alternate food source which changes their behavioral patterns.

Somewhat similar to photographers baiting animals for more dramatic photos: https://www.audubon.org/news/why-you-shouldnt-feed-or-bait-o...

If you want to keep wildlife truly wild you should do your part to minimize the impact you have on their habitats and behaviors.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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> It's technically illegal to have a wild animal as a pet in Brazil, as officials want to ensure vulnerable creatures don't get separated from their families and that they can be reintroduced into the wild after injury. Same where I am. I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? For example, I give peanuts to the wild squirrels around my house. This is not illegal where I live. It is illegal, however, to keep a w…

Here in Sweden someone had pigeons flying to their balcony all the time and they got reported for keeping them as a pet. The city dropped them off in another town but they flew back and were ordered to be put down because native species are not allowed to be kept as pets and they were unwilling to adapt to not living on the balcony.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reposting from below. Eastern grey squirrels were deliberately introduced into city parks for the enjoyment of people.[1] Also wild animals are flexible enough in their behaviour to accommodate interactions with humans. If you observe them carefully, you can see them switch from 'normal' behaviour to the behaviour they use when interacting with people. It's kind of like when you speak two languages and can switch fro…

Sure, but that's not really relevant here. The parent still considers them 'wild' despite providing alternate food source which changes their behavioral patterns. Somewhat similar to photographers baiting animals for more dramatic photos: https://www.audubon.org/news/why-you-shouldnt-feed-or-bait-o... If you want to keep wildlife truly wild you should do your part to minimize the impact you have on their habitats and…

> The parent still considers them 'wild' despite providing alternate food source which changes their behavioral patterns.

Who says this is changing their behavioural patterns? Maybe native people in north america have been randomly feeding grey squirrels for thens of thousands of years.

Maybe for longer in Eurasia?

In fact if it weren't in the animals behavioural repertoire to recognise the opportunity of taking food from people, then we wouldn't even be able to get them to understand.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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To forgive the tautology, intelligent creatures are intelligent. Which also means that love is possible. I mean... every person who's ever had a pet (of any sort) understands this (as I stare at the photo of my recently-deceased and very-charismatic cat). It may not fit into any naturalistic model that clearly separates humans from these other intelligent creatures (and ascribes all perception of humanlike feeling to…

How can you continue to eat other animals if you feel the way you do about other animals?

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Animalus Anthropomorphicus, "the animal as seen through the human eyes." I think Dindim has found a source of free food. Although it's a win win because who doesn't want to be visited by a penguin.

I find the people quickest to go on about anthropomorphism tend to have the least experience with animals. When you think about it.'s quite the intellectual conceit to assume you fully understand the decision-making of another creature and that it is entirely dependent on food. Reminds me of certain economic ideologues who insist everyone, whether they know it or not, is motivated by money and self-advancement.

So, taking a dig at capitolism and rational thinking in one swipe? This is a website devoted to exploiting technology for capitolism. Yc is literally an investor. But go on and tell us how not advancing ourselves benefits the world at large, Ill wait.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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> It's technically illegal to have a wild animal as a pet in Brazil, as officials want to ensure vulnerable creatures don't get separated from their families and that they can be reintroduced into the wild after injury. Same where I am. I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? For example, I give peanuts to the wild squirrels around my house. This is not illegal where I live. It is illegal, however, to keep a w…

Here in Sweden someone had pigeons flying to their balcony all the time and they got reported for keeping them as a pet. The city dropped them off in another town but they flew back and were ordered to be put down because native species are not allowed to be kept as pets and they were unwilling to adapt to not living on the balcony.

> Here in Sweden someone had pigeons flying to their balcony all the time and they got reported for keeping them as a pet. The city dropped them off in another town but they flew back and were ordered to be put down because native species are not allowed to be kept as pets and they were unwilling to adapt to not living on the balcony.

If the motivation of these laws is to protect the animals, I can't think of a more backwards response.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Sweden someone had pigeons flying to their balcony all the time and they got reported for keeping them as a pet. The city dropped them off in another town but they flew back and were ordered to be put down because native species are not allowed to be kept as pets and they were unwilling to adapt to not living on the balcony.

> Here in Sweden someone had pigeons flying to their balcony all the time and they got reported for keeping them as a pet. The city dropped them off in another town but they flew back and were ordered to be put down because native species are not allowed to be kept as pets and they were unwilling to adapt to not living on the balcony. If the motivation of these laws is to protect the animals, I can't think of a more…

Wait until you hear about all the ways government applies that same authority to "protecting" people

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here in Sweden someone had pigeons flying to their balcony all the time and they got reported for keeping them as a pet. The city dropped them off in another town but they flew back and were ordered to be put down because native species are not allowed to be kept as pets and they were unwilling to adapt to not living on the balcony.

> Here in Sweden someone had pigeons flying to their balcony all the time and they got reported for keeping them as a pet. The city dropped them off in another town but they flew back and were ordered to be put down because native species are not allowed to be kept as pets and they were unwilling to adapt to not living on the balcony. If the motivation of these laws is to protect the animals, I can't think of a more…

Unless the intention is to preserve wild behavior and prevent domestication, i.e. removing some individuals from the population to (in a way) preserve the species.
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