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Re: Kuleshov effect

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Perhaps this has been studied before, but this might be relevant in advertising as well. The book "Pre-suasion" by Robert Cialdini describes how for example, showing certain imagery before asking a person to make a choice produces specified effects - for example, showing flags before posing a question usually elicits a response that tends to be more aligned with Republican viewpoints.

Re: Kuleshov effect

#32

I wonder how is the lack of this effect connected to autism.

A variant of this is used in an autism test:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6577486

https://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/03/well-quiz-the-mind...

Autism's partial face-blindness may include an inability to learn prejudices about the emotional content of faces.

Re: Kuleshov effect

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does Bannon have to do with the article or the effect? It's a 100 year old discovery that's been used by everyone in the media for decades. It's why films have editors. It's why news companies edit their interviews. The article even has a hitchcock example. "In the first version of the example, Hitchcock is squinting, and the audience sees footage of a woman with a baby. The screen then returns to Hitchcock's fa…

Can you substantiate your claim, for instance, when did NYTimes use this effect to create an association in support of false facts? It seems that Breitbart has a much higher rate of misleading or outright false information compared to WSJ, NYTimes, etc. and much more supportive of using various strategies to trick its readers into believing falsehoods.

NYTimes is print media. This effect is for film editing. Better question would be for Fox News, MSNBC, etc.

Re: Kuleshov effect

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post #6

This scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail came back to my mind: https://youtu.be/DPXG4pdPj4w?t=18

> [Monty Python scene of two guards who see a distant hazy image of a knight charging the castle, but do nothing because the image is so distant and hazy, but are surprised when the knight finally arrives and kills one of them] I'm intrigued that you used that particular scene as an example. I've watched a lot of Monty Python and I've seen this movie at least a couple times, but that scene makes no sense to me. I don…

It works like most humor works: it sets up an expectation and then defies it. The expectation is that they see him charging combatively from a mile away. They should be readied for an attack or at least an urgent situation. This is defied by him popping up almost immediately.

It's also defied in very "British humor" style, with the characters seriously under-reacting to the situation. Under-reacting to the approaching threat (which conveniently also serves to highlight the distance) and to the attack itself.

Re: Kuleshov effect

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came to the comments specifically to make a similar point and was glad to see people already addressing it. I (diagnosed ASD) watched the video on Wikipedia and thought it was weird he had the same neutral expression each time.

Like commercials, I don't think it works when you watch with suspicion. So you cannot watch this movie and draw conclusions from it because you're focussed on the context of the Kuleshov effect (which also makes it more difficult to replicate). Even movies are different when you watch them critically. (FWIW, I have ASD as well, and for me the expressions on his face are meaningless.)

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Re: Kuleshov effect

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came to the comments specifically to make a similar point and was glad to see people already addressing it. I (diagnosed ASD) watched the video on Wikipedia and thought it was weird he had the same neutral expression each time.

Like commercials, I don't think it works when you watch with suspicion. So you cannot watch this movie and draw conclusions from it because you're focussed on the context of the Kuleshov effect (which also makes it more difficult to replicate). Even movies are different when you watch them critically. (FWIW, I have ASD as well, and for me the expressions on his face are meaningless.)

Sorry, I meant to word the first sentence differently. I meant to say: "I'm sorry that you seem to believe that in what comes across as an absolute or very certain manner (maybe I'm wrong)."
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