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Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Besides the point/argument laid out in the article, could you mention any possible reasons you think this may have happened? Would help to hear.

Exactly. From the wording of the email, it sounds like his previous ventures might have been doing something shady and those accounts are linked to the startup account.

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Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Wow, I feel for that company. I was always skeptical of people raising alarm bells at everything "going chrome," but now I'm starting to get it - Google has the ability to just nuke a company from orbit on a whim, and I'm not sure anybody can do anything about it. Sure, that company developed a business around Google. But it still feels bad. The only problem is that I don't trust a large portion of American politicia…

> Google has the ability to just nuke a company from orbit on a whim, and I'm not sure anybody can do anything about it.

And that's why you don't build that critical point of failure into your product, even if it's harder and more expensive to do it another way. Which, sadly, means don't build your company around an Android app.

They can do this to your personal Google account, too. What are the repercussions, to most people, of being summarily banned from all Google products? (Hint: What's the recovery email address for all of your random online services? What's your personal contact email for work, taxation, etc.? Do you have a local backup of your Gmail archive?) It's unlikely, sure, but if it does happen then it's gonna suck.

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As someone who has built and published apps on both major platforms, this issue of not being able to speak to someone is a problem on the Apple platform as well (as on Googles). As mentioned in the article, it’s heart wrenching to receive an email saying there is a problem with your app and know that the app or the release you worked so hard on might not get published. Having a release rejected can also be as bad as…

I'd believe I'd rather just have a secure platform that's open to any apps, no gatekeepers. Kind of like the web. Almost anyone can make an website and no gatekeeper gets in the way. We mostly trust the browsers are secure (or at least I trust Chrome to be secure, maybe Firefox too soon). I feel like iOS in particular could already do this. They could just let users install apps from anywhere and then do their best t…

On Android, you already have this since you can install apps directly. There is no dedicated open store, but nobody is preventing developers from publishing their Android apps on their homepage.

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>Do not attempt to register a new developer account. Any new accounts will be closed and your developer registration fee will not be refunded. We recommend that you use an alternative method for distributing your apps in the future. If this is a serous problem, why is there no other app store? There should be plenty of programmers who need another method to reach their customers. For starters, Amazon's app store shou…

”If this is a serous problem, why is there no other app store?”

It is serious, but only for a few developers, not for most, nor for Google. It has to be wide-spread to make alternative store(s) viable.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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Still not entirely sure what kind of apps this guy is making, are they legitimate? Otherwise, it looks like a reoccurring HN thing, where people plea for help while they're actually involved in some shady stuff. Not trying to accuse the author, of course. At the same time, it drives me nuts to see these kinds of flaws in the system. People get invested in a platform, and then one day that platform kicks you in the nu…

These, as far as I can tell:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170428152946/https://play.goog...

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lx9Xke...

At first glance doesn't seem to be scummy, but you never know.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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We also have this story on HN today https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18781473 Imagine a world in which Google Pay is dominant, and your Google Play account is terminated, and nowhere takes cash, and you can't buy food now, or ever.

Considering the reputed prevalence of WeChat in much of China for everyday transactions, this may be moving close to reality for people banned from that platform

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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As someone who has built and published apps on both major platforms, this issue of not being able to speak to someone is a problem on the Apple platform as well (as on Googles). As mentioned in the article, it’s heart wrenching to receive an email saying there is a problem with your app and know that the app or the release you worked so hard on might not get published. Having a release rejected can also be as bad as…

Wait, am I understanding correctly that Apple and Google actually charge developers money to produce the content that Apple and Google monetize on their app stores?

IIRC it’s about $100 or so per year. Basically hobby money just to make sure anyone submitting apps for review means it.

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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For those of you wondering, it appears that the company mentioned in the article, GreenLionSoft [1], develops apps that show public transportation schedules in Spain, at least as of 2017 [2]. Their Google Play page still exists in some places but has been cleared of all apps [3].

I can't find Pablo A. Martinez's personal developer account; the closest match is com.pablomartinez, which belongs (belonged?) to a law form, according to the description on Google. (The page is no longer accessible and doesn't seem to be archived anywhere.)

Pablo A. Martinez has additional work history publicly posted on his LinkedIn profile [4]. I just gave it a quick skim, but I don't see anything shady. At least on the surface, there's no clear explanation for the account terminations.

Pablo, if you're reading this, please consider adding more info about the apps you published, ideally with links to back up your claims. It'll make your case stronger.

[1]: https://www.greenlionsoft.com/

[2]: https://web.archive.org/web/20170428152946/https://play.goog...

[3]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/dev?id=583922732690913554...

[4]: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamartineza/

Re: Google terminated our start-up Google Play Publisher Account

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As someone who has built and published apps on both major platforms, this issue of not being able to speak to someone is a problem on the Apple platform as well (as on Googles). As mentioned in the article, it’s heart wrenching to receive an email saying there is a problem with your app and know that the app or the release you worked so hard on might not get published. Having a release rejected can also be as bad as…

I'd believe I'd rather just have a secure platform that's open to any apps, no gatekeepers. Kind of like the web. Almost anyone can make an website and no gatekeeper gets in the way. We mostly trust the browsers are secure (or at least I trust Chrome to be secure, maybe Firefox too soon). I feel like iOS in particular could already do this. They could just let users install apps from anywhere and then do their best t…

Get used to gatekeepers and censors. If you say or do the wrong thing too loudly, MasterCard will step in and yank your ability to accept payment out from under you.
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