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Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Post by org3432 »

I filed a likeness claim where Youtube created a profile with a picture of me somehow and there was no way to delete it. The takedown request was rejected because they said the video was invalid, despite it not being a video and it being explained that it was a profile and Youtube itself had taken property that wasn't theirs. Eventually I found some email address I could file a complaint against with a picture of my DL and they took it down.

It seems like companies have their 99% cases that their systems are optimized for, but within the remaining 1% where they themselves are causing the problem or have a bug etc. the humans they hire can't understand simple things if they deviate an iota from what they're used to.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Post by darkpuma »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #30

Just asking, but didn't the company falsely accusing him of copyright infringement slander him? The damage can be shown in the money he lost out on, but I mean I guess his reputation is also damaged with Google by the accusation. It was definitely a realistic accusation that someone might believe as Google evidently believed it.

> "Just asking, but didn't the company falsely accusing him of copyright infringement slander him?"

Probably, but who is he supposed to sue over it? It's far from clear who the 'company' is. He could sue John Doe and then get youtube to reveal what they know, but he may very likely discover that the 'company' is just some guy with hardly any assets in a country that doesn't give a shit about him or his plight.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

darkpuma wrote: post #33
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #30

Just asking, but didn't the company falsely accusing him of copyright infringement slander him? The damage can be shown in the money he lost out on, but I mean I guess his reputation is also damaged with Google by the accusation. It was definitely a realistic accusation that someone might believe as Google evidently believed it.

> "Just asking, but didn't the company falsely accusing him of copyright infringement slander him?" Probably, but who is he supposed to sue over it? It's far from clear who the 'company' is. He could sue John Doe and then get youtube to reveal what they know, but he may very likely discover that the 'company' is just some guy with hardly any assets in a country that doesn't give a shit about him or his plight.

Maybe, but I guess the guy has some assets now.

I mean if it is a guy with hardly any assets in a country that doesn't give a shit I don't think that suit will drag on that long and probably wouldn't be too expensive to litigate. It's only if the guy has assets in a country that does give a shit that will want to fight, and if that's the case they're probably screwed.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

#35

Post by walterbell »

annadane wrote: post #25
topynate wrote: post #23

I do admire just how perverse YouTube's solution for copyright law is. If they were accepting DMCA notices, they'd have the obligation to take note of counter-notices. If they were giving control of claimed videos to the claimants, then if someone filed a false claim against you, taking control of your video, you could then file a DMCA notice against the claimaint. But YouTube does neither of these things. Instead, t…

Thanks for actually explaining this. The defenders of Youtube - I'm convinced a few on r/youtube are shills at this point - will say this is all necessary due to copyright law, Viacom lawsuit, etc etc. One day it will emerge the Google leadership is as crooked as it comes.

They would now clarify that as YouTube leadership within the Alphabet holding company, at least until they may be separated by antitrust policy or otherwise.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Post by trumped »

duskwuff wrote: post #28
trumped wrote: post #27

You could shorten #FixYoutubeCopyright to #FixCopyright... because it is probably the source of the problem....

Nah. This situation is specific to Youtube -- copyright law doesn't deal in terms of monetization.

"yah." lookup dmca takedowns... they probaby just don't want to have to deal with the consequences of that.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Post by j45 »

topynate wrote: post #23

I do admire just how perverse YouTube's solution for copyright law is. If they were accepting DMCA notices, they'd have the obligation to take note of counter-notices. If they were giving control of claimed videos to the claimants, then if someone filed a false claim against you, taking control of your video, you could then file a DMCA notice against the claimaint. But YouTube does neither of these things. Instead, t…

I wonder if DMCAing your own videos is still a viable strategy.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

#38

Post by IAmGraydon »

dylan604 wrote: post #3

It's great that YT did the right thing by giving him ownership back on their platform. The next thing would be to give him any money earned during the time it was wrongfully taken away and in dispute. That should not be dependent on having the asshats paying it back first. YT messed up, so they need to make it right all the way.

YT was forced to do so by his legal team. In no way did they do the right thing.

Re: My video with 47M views was stolen on YouTube [video]

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Post by londons_explore »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #30

Just asking, but didn't the company falsely accusing him of copyright infringement slander him? The damage can be shown in the money he lost out on, but I mean I guess his reputation is also damaged with Google by the accusation. It was definitely a realistic accusation that someone might believe as Google evidently believed it.

Doesn't slander only apply to public statements, rather than something privately told to another company?
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