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Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by laumars »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #21
laumars wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point of that is to distinguish between stuff that is nudity but not of a sexual nature (like Aphrodite of Milos[1]) from stuff that could be deemed as corrupting young kids? But I’m guessing there. As a European I do think the Americans get far to uptight about nudity. There’s nothing inherently wrong with nakedness, it’s not automatically sexual. Yet I’m constantly amazed how much casual violence is in…

> nudity but not of a sexual nature (like Aphrodite of Milos) Pretty strange to call this "nudity, but not of a sexual nature". She is literally the incarnation of the concept of sex.

The point being that is art, not pornography.

Re the people who voted me down, I’m curious if you’ve done so because you consider that statue porn or because you don’t consider it art? Are you able to elaborate please :)

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by [deleted] »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #30
code_duck wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what they would say is that the statue was not created nor are photos provided with an aim to ‘appeal to a prurient interest’.

It would be hard to defend that claim as to the creation of the statue. It's easier as to the provision of photos today, but opinions still vary.

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Post by RedPandaTronics »

They are crazy at Google. They banned my game TrumpTweetTrumps, because they said it was pornographic. It contained a mini-game called 'Make Ivanka Come', the objective of that mini game was to ring a bell and make Ivanka come to the desk, so her father can get his daughters advise on making policy. Just a comment on the nepotism seen in the current US government, nothing pornographic. Apple are even worse though, they censored like half of the game's content on the AppStore, including an actual tweet from Trump. A tweet he sent out on an app he downloaded from the AppStore, i.e. Twitter. And that is accessible through an app promoted in their AppStore, i.e. Twitter. Grab-a-pussy mini-game was also banned and many more, I think on AppStore like half of the 8 mini-games in the App had to be removed or completely changed. I could go on complaining about this forever, but I can't be asked to type it all up again, there's so many messages being sent back and forth between me and Apple employees on their stupid resolution centre. To sum up, fk Google and Apple, your thoughtless policies are not applied consistently (basically if you profit from an app, anything is allowed for that app) and they have a bad impact on society as a whole. Satire can have powerful impacts on people and drive them to do good things. Satire is essential!

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by pmlnr »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #30
code_duck wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what they would say is that the statue was not created nor are photos provided with an aim to ‘appeal to a prurient interest’.

It would be hard to defend that claim as to the creation of the statue. It's easier as to the provision of photos today, but opinions still vary.

Edit: my comment was wrong, ignore it.

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You need to get a bit more in touch with history; that statue has nothing to do with "sexually gratifying". It was in the days when minos culture fashion looked like this: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=minos+culture+fashion&t=ffab&iax=i...

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Post by TheOtherHobbes »

laser wrote: post #29

The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

I don't think sex is particularly messianic, but I also don't see why censoring and policing nominally adult content should be Google's business - literally or metaphorically.

This is just one example from a growing list of questionable moral behaviour and outright abuse of monopoly power.

The political reality is that Google has serious trust and credibility issues on many fronts.

The more this kind of thing happens, the more likely they are to turn into antitrust issues.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by pmlnr »

In the Tumblr ban threads, people mentioned that all of these companies should simply make their progressive web apps and give the finger to the puritan idiots calling these decisions. I agree.

The questions, however, are: how much growth can be achieved without play store/ios app? Is it viable? If yes, how? Can art be more important for a site (and it's investors), than immediate, quick growth?

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Post by Fnoord »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #36
laser wrote: post #29

The suppression of the viewing of the human body in its natural form, especially in art, is one of the deepest perversions of society. It seems so intrinsically tied to the suppression and control of pleasure by institutions seeking dominance over human life. When you control access to the natural pleasures of life, you have control over the motivations and operations of that life. In prior times, when religions were…

I don't think sex is particularly messianic, but I also don't see why censoring and policing nominally adult content should be Google's business - literally or metaphorically. This is just one example from a growing list of questionable moral behaviour and outright abuse of monopoly power. The political reality is that Google has serious trust and credibility issues on many fronts. The more this kind of thing happens…

It is also an example of the USA shoving down its morals to the rest of the world. Especially areas where partial nudity is accepted. One of the very first things in life a baby does is searching the nipple (which is darker than the rest of the breast) and sucking on it. Breast are very much part of nature and human life, yet we censor it as if it is something which shouldn't be seen. At the same time, we have no issues with all kind of violent games. Hello double standard! That you wanna have that in the USA is up to you Americans, but let me as European at least apply the norms of my country. You would not expect anything less as American!

But yeah... Civ cultural victory, and all that...

In EU there's already been complaints about Google only allowing their Play Store and hampering 3rd party stores, and Google lost that lawsuit.

Re: Google Takes Down Artstation Android App for Explicit Content

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Post by code_duck »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #30
code_duck wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what they would say is that the statue was not created nor are photos provided with an aim to ‘appeal to a prurient interest’.

It would be hard to defend that claim as to the creation of the statue. It's easier as to the provision of photos today, but opinions still vary.

I have no doubt whatsoever that historians could easily demonstrate that the statue was not created as a form of pornography. It’s a religious icon.
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