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Jack Parsons and the Occult Roots of JPL

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Re: Jack Parsons and the Occult Roots of JPL

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Post by smacktoward »

yittcvz wrote: post #27
tunnuz wrote: post #4

If you want to know more about this, the Unexplained podcast has a 3-parts episode on the story of Jack Parsons. Really recommended! http://www.unexplainedpodcast.com/episodes/2018/3/20/s03-epi...

Additionally the "biography" of Parsons, "Sex and Rockets: The Occult World of Jack Parsons", is a great read. https://www.amazon.com/Sex-Rockets-Occult-World-Parsons/dp/0...

And because Parsons' life intersected in the late '40s with that of L. Ron Hubbard, he features prominently in Lawrence Wright's excellent history of Scientology Going Clear (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_Clear_(book)) as well.

Wikipedia summarizes Parsons' and Hubbard's sex-magic collaboration here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons_(rocket_engineer)...

Re: Jack Parsons and the Occult Roots of JPL

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Post by lostgame »

api wrote: post #2

If anyone hasn't seen Strange Angel I highly recommend it. It's definitely the "Hollywood version" to some extent but it's relatively close to his biographies and is a decent watch regardless. The title and thesis here is a bit wacky. JPL itself doesn't have "occult roots." Parsons was into occultism and Thelema/Crowley, which is far less sensational than it sounds if you've ever actually read any of that stuff. It's…

Source: previous O.T.O. member and Initiate, as well as an Initate of another particular Secret Society.

Um, no. Sorry. I don’t know what you read; but maybe go check out ‘The Book of Lies’, or a number of Crowley’s other, more taboo and dark pieces of literature.

Ritual Magick, especially as Crowley and Parsons participated in, may include the likes of summoning archangels and demons, the use of altered states including the use of extreme hallucinogens and other drugs.

While I agree the philosophy of the O.T.O./Thelema is not that revolutionary compared to many Eastern schools of thought; its rituals and practices are far from it.

Re: Jack Parsons and the Occult Roots of JPL

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Post by lifthearth »

turnon wrote: post #29

The ulter ego he says he encountered in his occult rituals he calls "Dajjal". Interestingly, it is the same name for the Anti Christ that exists in early Islamic literature. What is even more striking is that this same literature describes the Dajaal as one-eyed. We all know that the one eye is the symbol of the illuminaty cult. Another thing that really reminded me about this guy is the movie "Ready Player One", it…

Whatever religion posses you will have overlapping symbols that are in conflict with the occult. This is intentional. Occultists create subversive symbols to filter out trojan horse intellectuals (EG: The Church of Satan). People who seem smart and capable of deep thought but are actually being coached by a religion and only wield rational thought to serve their religion are pretty common and undesirable to have around when mindhacking. It also creates an "us-vs-them" paradigm that improves community at the cost of wider social ostracism. Anyone who has argued with a christian trained in apologetics on hot button topics knows what I'm talking about in regards to trojan horse intellectuals. So by adopting "bullshit" (like antichrist worship) that directly conflicts with "other bullshit" they can dereference the pointer to the religious back door. Then occultists build their own back doors and reprogram themselves to do what they want.

Obviously major religions want to be the only answer. As any hacker knows as long as more than one person has admin privledges on a network, there is no guarantee control over that network can be maintained. All major religions say that the apocalypse will start when people turn away from them. The result is increasing radicalization as a religion dies out which helps it hold on a little longer.

As for the Eye. Yeah good luck finding constancy in an interpretation. It's the symbol the visual center of the brain is most tuned to. It's going to be everywhere regardless of whatever meaning people ascribe to it.

Re: Jack Parsons and the Occult Roots of JPL

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Post by WalterBright »

> changed the name to “Jet Propulsion Laboratory.” Despite the fact that they were not researching jet engines

A rocket engine is a "jet" engine as the jet of gasses provides the thrust. What we think of as a "jet" engine today was originally called a "turbojet" engine.

Re: Jack Parsons and the Occult Roots of JPL

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Post by yesenadam »

armitron wrote: post #19
imhelpingu wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Casting Crowley as the evil crazed Satanist is basically like if people in 50 years were to watch a bunch of Marilyn Manson videos and decide he was really an evil vampire. It's part of the marketing. On the other hand, this > using veiled language meant to offend is frequently the opposite of the case. Frequently, the veiled language is used to obscure the nature of some rituals which many "uninitiated" would likely…

Crowley had a mischievous streak and delighted being in the spotlight. His writing style was infused by sarcasm and was all over the spectrum of using poetic and sexual language to both offend and veil. I do not think you are correct in your assessment as clearly he couldn't care less about offending people. An example is when he refers to masturbation as "child sacrifice": “For the highest spiritual working one must…

Crowley was a visionary genius who tapped into the 21st century and one could say helped bring it into existence.

What makes you say that?

Re: Jack Parsons and the Occult Roots of JPL

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Post by yesenadam »

imhelpingu wrote: post #11
api wrote: post #2

If anyone hasn't seen Strange Angel I highly recommend it. It's definitely the "Hollywood version" to some extent but it's relatively close to his biographies and is a decent watch regardless. The title and thesis here is a bit wacky. JPL itself doesn't have "occult roots." Parsons was into occultism and Thelema/Crowley, which is far less sensational than it sounds if you've ever actually read any of that stuff. It's…

Thelema is basically ritual magic and the direct antecedent to mid 20th century new age culture. Many of its practices are probably the basis for modern conceptions of spooky sex-cult behavior. The theory side does seem to be Hinduism-lite, though. I'll give you that.

Thelema is basically ritual magic and the direct antecedent to mid 20th century new age culture

I'm no expert, but new age? It sounds more like wicca/satanist stuff to me, nothing like new age. "Aspects of Thelema and Crowley's thought in general provided inspiration for the development of Wicca and, to a certain degree, the rise of Modern Paganism as a whole, as well as, chaos magick, and Satanism."[0]

New Age, it seems to me, comes from the very different world of the New Thought of the 1880s, Blavatsky, Besant, Steiner etc.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelema

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