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LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

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Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

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Cool work being done here. I particularly like that it uses mini-PCIe cards as the 5Ghz antennas! [0] [0] https://librerouter.org/document/schematic-v1/

It looks like the librerouter.org ssl certificate expired 15 minutes ago.

Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

#34
post #22
post #3

Slightly different purpose, but it's a reminder that Omnia Turris exists: https://omnia.turris.cz/en/ 100% Open hardware, comes with OpenWRT and it is easy to modify https://forum.turris.cz/t/high-performance-configuration-upd... https://forum.turris.cz/t/omnia-on-steroids-project-your-opi...

How is it open hardware if they're using an ARM CPU? I don't see a link anywhere to the open source firmware, but I'm admittedly on mobile.

Colloquially, schematics, board layout files, and the ability for the user to replace any firmware that the developer can is the bar for open hardware.

Here's their firmware: https://gitlab.labs.nic.cz/turris/openwrt

Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

#35

These are cool and all, but here's a naive question. Where do these community networks connect to the internet at large? Wouldn't this violate some sort of ToS from the provider?

Depends on who you're buying from. In general, home/consumer usage is cheaper, less reliable, and comes with those restrictions compared to a business use.

Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

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Feel free to correct me, but from memory they would be forced to stay within the <100mw range to comply with FCC in most parts of the world but with a directional antenna in both directions you can achive kms as long as no obsticles are presented.

Are you missing a 0? I thought the FCC limited it to less than 1000mW.

https://www.air802.com/fcc-rules-and-regulations.html

Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

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post #35

These are cool and all, but here's a naive question. Where do these community networks connect to the internet at large? Wouldn't this violate some sort of ToS from the provider?

Depends on who you're buying from. In general, home/consumer usage is cheaper, less reliable, and comes with those restrictions compared to a business use.

So, basically some small, rural township would buy the access then share or several individuals would pool their funds and do it?

Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

#38
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I jumped from a Turris Omnia to Unifi kit after the Turris broke during an update (sorry, I need my stuff to work all the time). Funnily enough I miss it, but the decision to use knot as the resolver is very, very strange. The Omnia is based on the Espressobin, which is also worth looking at.

Having a diverse set of DNS software is a great thing, I'm not sure why you think that's strange. Why have every single router vulnerable to the next BIND bug?

BIND? Who still uses that? Its dnsmasq and unbound all over.

Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

#39
post #20

libremesh supports a few models: https://libremesh.org/docs/en_quick_starting_guide.html ubnt's devices are not that expensive and may be the easy way out, unless you really want to do all the firmware testing, equipment in a water-proof enclosure etc. Plus this project is in lack of a web GUI to manage the nodes, you have to use CLI to do that, might be hard to find qualified IT workers in remote areas. I also agree…

Looks like their security certificate expired a few days ago.

Re: LibreRouter: Powering community networks with free and open hardware

#40

These are cool and all, but here's a naive question. Where do these community networks connect to the internet at large? Wouldn't this violate some sort of ToS from the provider?

hi NicoEchániz here, project coordinator for the LibreRouter.

There are many different realities regarding the connectivity from a community network to the rest of the Internet. In the case of AlterMundi - the organization steering LibreRouter - , the communities that are connected in our region in Argentina are registered as a national non-profit operator, we have our own ASN and public IP ranges and we do BGP peering with other networks in the region.

So... no ToS violations.

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