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Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by bluejekyll »

scarface74 wrote: post #26
21 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As opposed to broadcast and cable? Which is why nobody bothers checking out broadcast/cable shows anymore. They have become synonyms with crap. Netflix is playing a dangerous game here by letting content quality slip. And I don't think it's about the money, they obviously have it and are willing to spend it, but there is only so much acting/producing talent out there.

Which is why nobody bothers checking out broadcast/cable shows anymore. They have become synonyms with crap. The infamous “I haven’t watched TV in 10 years. Do people still watch TV” thinking. 74% of households still subscribe to cable. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nelsongranados/2018/03/30/2017-...

From the same article: “OTT-only households tripled in the past four years (about 40% annually), and I can think of no reason why this trend would slow down”, where OTT means over-the-top streaming services like Netflix.

It’s clear that people enjoy that experience more than cable, which isn’t surprising given it's on-demand nature.

Cable is on its way down, and quickly, where people have the choice.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by vonseel »

Someone recently commented elsewhere that they were tired of paying for streaming access to a bunch of shows nobody wants to watch, and they wanted access to the most popular movies/network shows/whatever.

I didn't comment then, but FWIW: some of the best shows available are now streaming originals from Netflix, Prime, etc. If you haven't checked out specifically any of the Netflix originals, you're missing out. It's a complete replacement for the non-sports watcher.

As posted in response elsewhere below, here's a list of Netflix's best work:

  - Stranger Things
  - Narcos
  - The OA
  - The Haunting of Hill House
  - Marvel series. All of them!
  - GLOW
  - Ozark
  - Altered Carbon
  - American Vandal
  - 13 Reasons Why
Also good:

  - Atypical
  - Love
  - Flaked
  - Maniac
  - Master of None
  - Chef's Table
  - Making a Murderer
This is by no means a complete list, you can find that here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_original_programs_dist...

I tried to skim through it and provide my own short list of what I really liked, so this is just one person's opinion.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by wmf »

pgrote wrote: post #7

It is funny how the thing that is breaking the cable stronghold is the same thing that will bring it back. By 2020 there will be at least 15 competing streaming services backed by large entertainment companies. How many subscriptions will people end up paying for then? Someone will then have the idea to consolidate it into one or two packages. Rinse, repeat.

That idea is easy to come up with but impossible to implement. Netflix, Amazon, and probably Apple have no incentive to be bundled.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by vonseel »

gammateam wrote: post #8
chaosbutters314 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big mouth, orange is the new black, black mirror, house of cards, narcos....? I think they are doing a pretty decent job

House of cards: filler by season 3 and the last season turning into an incoherent mess to deal with the accepted but voluntary PR response of axing the main character, out of all possible responses. Orange is the new black: loses all forms of ‘conflict’ as a literary device by season 3 And these are the flagship titles! Low bar Edit: since downvotes pause my ability to post for hours so I cant even respond, the only…

OITNB is one of their first originals, and I wouldn't call it their best work.

Here's a list of their best work, IMO:

  - Stranger Things
  - Narcos
  - The OA
  - The Haunting of Hill House
  - Marvel series. All of them!
  - GLOW
  - Ozark
  - Altered Carbon
  - American Vandal
  - 13 Reasons Why
Also good:

  - Atypical
  - Love
  - Flaked
  - Maniac
  - Master of None
  - Chef's Table
  - Making a Murderer
This is by no means a complete list, you can find that here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_original_programs_dist...

I tried to skim through it and provide my own short lists of what I really liked, so this is just one person's opinion.

Orange is the New Black and House of Cards were the first two originals that I watched, and I remember liking House of Cards, although it is very slow, but I stopped watching OITNB after the second season.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by [deleted] »

conanbatt wrote: post #21
booleandilemma wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This time it’s without commercials, at least. I recently watched plain old tv again (after not watching any for several years) and I can’t believe we used to put up with those! It was like I suddenly turned off my adblocker.

Its truly incredible. I also had to stop using ad-block due to some work-related regulations, and I should demand compensation from the state on that. What is most noticeable to me is how wasteful advertising is. I've seen some of the same ad 1000 times, and im just not going to buy that damn car. I cant drive!

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Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by philpem »

xur17 wrote: post #24
conanbatt wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its truly incredible. I also had to stop using ad-block due to some work-related regulations, and I should demand compensation from the state on that. What is most noticeable to me is how wasteful advertising is. I've seen some of the same ad 1000 times, and im just not going to buy that damn car. I cant drive!

> I also had to stop using ad-block due to some work-related regulations, and I should demand compensation from the state on that. I'd love to hear more about this if you don't mind.

I'd guess it's either "browser plugins are banned" or "one of the advertising companies might sue us."

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by vonseel »

friedman23 wrote: post #22
21 wrote: post #2

On Netflix most of their own series are low production value crap. I don't even bother checking them anymore even if the subject sounds interesting, unless I hear about them in the media first. This can't be good for them in the long run if the Netflix name becomes associated with filler content.

I agree with you, outside of a few productions the vast majority of netflix content isn't good. Black Mirror, Stranger Things, the new movie the Ballad of Buster Scruggs... I can't think of anything else I like from them. Amazon has the same problem, both Amazon and Netflix seem to pump out tv shows without putting that much work into them going for quantity over quality. First Amazon show I actually enjoyed was the…

Watch The OA. Refer to my comment history for other titles you might like.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by mosj3 »

WalterBright wrote: post #28
sigi45 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everything can be that good, unfortunate. There have never been too many Game of Thrones, Breaking Bad or StarTrek Voyager. But Netflix has still lots of other shows to over. They just have all Star Trek series. They buyout really good shows (Like Black Mirror) and there catalog is only growing. That for only 10,- Euros. Spotify costs me the same! I bought DVDs and rented VHSrs before. I don't mind paying it to N…

There was a ton of "made for TV" content in the 70's and 80's, for example, TV movies. It has all vanished. It's not even on imdb.com. I wonder why nobody is streaming it. On the other hand, I've noticed that record companies are reaching further and further into their back catalogs, even going back into the 1950s, and re-releasing on CDs long unavailable stuff. (I notice this because I often buy thrift store records…

I tried watching the first season of Star Trek TNG recently and couldn't get through two episodes. Things get dated I guess.

Re: There Are Now More Shows Streaming Than There Are on Broadcast or Cable

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Post by scarface74 »

bluejekyll wrote: post #31
scarface74 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is why nobody bothers checking out broadcast/cable shows anymore. They have become synonyms with crap. The infamous “I haven’t watched TV in 10 years. Do people still watch TV” thinking. 74% of households still subscribe to cable. https://www.forbes.com/sites/nelsongranados/2018/03/30/2017-...

From the same article: “OTT-only households tripled in the past four years (about 40% annually), and I can think of no reason why this trend would slow down”, where OTT means over-the-top streaming services like Netflix. It’s clear that people enjoy that experience more than cable, which isn’t surprising given it's on-demand nature. Cable is on its way down, and quickly, where people have the choice.

I don’t deny that. But to say that people don’t currently watch cable when three in four households do still have cable is false.

My older son went a year without cable or home internet. He used his phone for tethering and his PS4 to watch video on TV. Of course he used our family Netflix plan, Hulu, and played video off of my Plex server.

I doubt my younger son will ever have traditional cable. We haven’t even bothered with giving him our DirecTVNow login or getting a third stream for him to watch.

He is also coming up in a house with unlimited gigabit Ethernet, every room wired for gigabit Ethernet and Roku TVs, AppleTV boxes, and Roku sticks all over the house....

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