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Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Re: Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Post by cypher_ »

schoen wrote: post #29
cypher_ wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the major mistakes of the early Cypherpunks include the following. If we want to go forward, these problems must be solved. (a) informal approach to cryptography, the entire applied cryptography from late 1990s to the early 2000s suffered from this problem, we are still working hard to correct them since Post-Snowden. TLSv1.3 is the most recent effort to pay our debt. We should understand that, even we can cr…

I gave a talk in October where I said that some things that original cypherpunks got right were + Money and payments as locus of power + Naming and identity as locus of power + Access to cryptography as locus of power + Governments' appetite for electronic surveillance + Anonymity enabling otherwise impossible interactions and some things that they got wrong were - Vanguardism - Sybils and models of public discourse…

Do you have related writings or presentations on your hands? If so, could you please publish them online? I'd love to see some details of your critique, especially, what is the problem of Vanguardism?

Re: Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Post by NelsonMinar »

RIP Tim May. He wrote thoughtfully and prolifically and shaped a generation's thinking.

For any of you younger folks who don't have much context for cypherpunks, here's a couple of good articles: https://medium.com/@bruces/the-blast-shack-f745f5fbeb1c http://projects.csmonitor.com/cypherpunk

I'm still trying to get my head around the idea Lucky Green has a Facebook account.

Re: Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Post by [deleted] »

cypher_ wrote: post #30
schoen wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I gave a talk in October where I said that some things that original cypherpunks got right were + Money and payments as locus of power + Naming and identity as locus of power + Access to cryptography as locus of power + Governments' appetite for electronic surveillance + Anonymity enabling otherwise impossible interactions and some things that they got wrong were - Vanguardism - Sybils and models of public discourse…

Insightful comment, thank you! I would like further to say, as I said in another comment, Cyphernomicon is one of the most valuable document worth to read, an amazing collecting of farseeing ideas. The widespread of data breach, privacy-invading computer systems and software, tendency of authoritarianism and mass surveillance in the digital world, how Internet will change whistleblowing, and even cryptographic ransom…

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Re: Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Post by javajosh »

Okay, I'm curious - did anyone else get a screen flicker when they clicked on these comments? I'm on macOS 10.14.2 chrome 71.0.3578.98. I think it would be interesting if someone wanted to trigger software based on particular URLs, or, more likely, textual content in the page. Because it is personal, and transient, it would be very difficult to detect.

Re: Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Post by schoen »

cypher_ wrote: post #31
schoen wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I gave a talk in October where I said that some things that original cypherpunks got right were + Money and payments as locus of power + Naming and identity as locus of power + Access to cryptography as locus of power + Governments' appetite for electronic surveillance + Anonymity enabling otherwise impossible interactions and some things that they got wrong were - Vanguardism - Sybils and models of public discourse…

Do you have related writings or presentations on your hands? If so, could you please publish them online? I'd love to see some details of your critique, especially, what is the problem of Vanguardism?

I wrote up kind of a long reply about the vanguardism issue, but I think I want to sleep on it and see if I can potentially express it more clearly.

Re: Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Post by ebcode »

cypher_ wrote: post #28
burtonator wrote: post #13

These early documents are really interesting in that they often NAIL the future but underestimate the technical challenges required. Onion routing being a good example... it's taken longer to get there and it's still not going to be the default for a long long long time.

I think the major mistakes of the early Cypherpunks include the following. If we want to go forward, these problems must be solved. (a) informal approach to cryptography, the entire applied cryptography from late 1990s to the early 2000s suffered from this problem, we are still working hard to correct them since Post-Snowden. TLSv1.3 is the most recent effort to pay our debt. We should understand that, even we can cr…

> I recommend everyone to read the Cypherpunk Mailing List archives to understand the situations.

https://mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki/

Re: Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Post by r3bl »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #32

RIP Tim May. He wrote thoughtfully and prolifically and shaped a generation's thinking. For any of you younger folks who don't have much context for cypherpunks, here's a couple of good articles: https://medium.com/@bruces/the-blast-shack-f745f5fbeb1c http://projects.csmonitor.com/cypherpunk I'm still trying to get my head around the idea Lucky Green has a Facebook account.

Not Medium link: http://www.webstock.org.nz/the-blast-shack/

Re: Tell HN: Tim May, Author of “The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto”, Has Died

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Post by wraithdroplets »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #32

RIP Tim May. He wrote thoughtfully and prolifically and shaped a generation's thinking. For any of you younger folks who don't have much context for cypherpunks, here's a couple of good articles: https://medium.com/@bruces/the-blast-shack-f745f5fbeb1c http://projects.csmonitor.com/cypherpunk I'm still trying to get my head around the idea Lucky Green has a Facebook account.

RIP, MT AI Y M.
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