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Ah yes, because Samuel Slater smuggled cotton spinner trade secrets out of England in 1789, China is justified committing IP theft today. Sound logic
The definition of theft of IP is entirely a product of local jurisdiction though, given we are talking about temporary monopolies on ephemera and not physical protection of personal claims on objects or spaces.
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Which is also what the U.S. did for its first century or so. A lot of us think U.S. IP law has seriously overextended itself these days. I'm not sure I entirely blame China for not going along with it.
What kinds of IP did the US steal in its first century? Interested from a historical perspective
https://eh.net/encyclopedia/an-economic-history-of-copyright...
They started allowing non-citizens to get U.S. patents earlier:
"Americans could not obtain patents for imported discoveries, but the earliest statutes of 1793, 1800 and 1832, restricted patent property to citizens or to residents who declared that they intended to become citizens. As such, while an American could not appropriate patent rights to a foreign invention, he could freely use the idea without any need to bear licensing or similar costs that would otherwise have been due if the inventor had been able to obtain a patent in this country. In 1836, the stipulations on citizenship or residency were removed, but were replaced with discriminatory patent fees: foreigners could obtain a patent in the U.S. for a fee of three hundred dollars, or five hundred if they were British. After 1861 patent rights (with the exception of caveats) were available to all applicants on the same basis without regard to nationality."
https://eh.net/encyclopedia/an-economic-history-of-patent-in...
USA’s main exports are IP and Dollars. They have engaged in petrodollar warfare and international treaties to protect the demand for their export and intimidate those (like Kim Dotcom) who threaten it in other countries. Just like Russia has done for natural gas, for instance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_warfare https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/tran...
Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
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Ah yes, because Samuel Slater smuggled cotton spinner trade secrets out of England in 1789, China is justified committing IP theft today. Sound logic
The logic is "if you've used it to become the richest nation on earth don't knock out others using it to become rich". And those that still benefit from the heads-tart due to their country/ancestors having done so, shouldn't play it holier than thou either. Not to mention the whole hypocrisy, since the US has used corporate espionage and actual spying on supposed "allies" corporations since forever and still does, pl…
I've taken similar advice from HN -- not to travel to the US unless it's essential -- and I've heeded that quite closely. It's unsurprising that people significantly more important than me are being advised the same in more formal situations.
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/...
I've worked for years at companies that had corporate policy to either wash or destroy phones/computers taken into China.
That is to say, it's unsurprising that any 2 countries engaged in a trade war (hot or cold) would take these precautions against each other.
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Ah yes, because Samuel Slater smuggled cotton spinner trade secrets out of England in 1789, China is justified committing IP theft today. Sound logic
The logic is "if you've used it to become the richest nation on earth don't knock out others using it to become rich". And those that still benefit from the heads-tart due to their country/ancestors having done so, shouldn't play it holier than thou either. Not to mention the whole hypocrisy, since the US has used corporate espionage and actual spying on supposed "allies" corporations since forever and still does, pl…
Cool, so you have no issues with China, India, Africa accelerating their use of fossil fuels.
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Kind of opposite of the Cold War, where despite (geo)political differences, we tried to cooperate in the sciences, where possible/prudent...
And unlike the Cold War, both sides' economies are completely tied to trade with the other. Before anyone feels too complacent about that fact - trade doesn't have a great track record of preventing actual wars. WWI was considered unthinkable, because of how tightly the two sides were entangled in trade.
Because they are likely working for institutions that are committing IP theft, in this case it's better to keep them honest, they don't have a culture that respects the rules and customs of other cultures (common law, contract law).
Its a faster and effective way to catch up, it would be stupid for them not to do it.
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The definition of theft of IP is entirely a product of local jurisdiction though, given we are talking about temporary monopolies on ephemera and not physical protection of personal claims on objects or spaces.
China defines IP theft the same as EU and USA (more or less.)
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The logic is "if you've used it to become the richest nation on earth don't knock out others using it to become rich". And those that still benefit from the heads-tart due to their country/ancestors having done so, shouldn't play it holier than thou either. Not to mention the whole hypocrisy, since the US has used corporate espionage and actual spying on supposed "allies" corporations since forever and still does, pl…
If he was smuggling, it was a crime then, it's a crime now.