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Facial recognition: It’s time for action

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Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

#31

I don't understand how this could be realistically regulated. It's passive technology and its use can't be detected. It's like trying to stop people from thinking.

Regulate the sharing of FR galleries. Prevent the creation of giant FR galleries of consumers, students, residents or whatever blanket term. Additionally, require term limits on holding an image or "identity" in an FR gallery.

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

#32

Governments are the first in the line to abuse facial recognition. Now as CCTV cams are everywhere, everybody should have a right to wear a mask everywhere without getting discriminated.

> everybody should have a right to wear a mask everywhere without getting discriminated.

It's a losing game. They will track you with your mask on from the moment you leave your house, your phone, your credit card, your gait, your car... It's like a super cookie, if you don't delete all the 10 places it was stored, a single missed one will be enough to regenerate it.

Total citizen surveillance is coming, everyone's location history will be in a database and kept for years, just like phone call metadata.

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

#33
post #5

This is where the ACLU should spend their time and effort rather than their political meanderings. This is politically neutral, it affects everyone and Americans should enjoy some basic rights in this realm. Govern how private entities use this tech and data. Regulate official use so it’s not abused, etc.

Political neutral doesn't exist. Regulation invades freedom of corporations. I support that, but I'm also left of the center. (For some definition of left and some definition of center)

Yes, I suppose. I still think this would have bipartisan support in congress as well as support from the public, regardless of affiliation.

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

#34
post #30

Biometrics are creeping into everyday life. One of my local gyms this week switched to requiring fingerprints or you were barred from access. Another local gym uses facial recognition for entrance, although you can choose to have a member card instead if you ask for it directly, they don't list it as an option. Thankfully in the EU we have GDPR. It considers biometrics as a similar sensitivity to medical data, so unl…

> If consent is not given then that can not bar you from service. But they probably can increase the price to cover "administrative costs/..."

in somewhat functional markets that are subject to competition, companies cannot arbitrarily raise prices.

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

#35
post #5

This is where the ACLU should spend their time and effort rather than their political meanderings. This is politically neutral, it affects everyone and Americans should enjoy some basic rights in this realm. Govern how private entities use this tech and data. Regulate official use so it’s not abused, etc.

https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology/surveillance-...

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

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post #35
post #5

This is where the ACLU should spend their time and effort rather than their political meanderings. This is politically neutral, it affects everyone and Americans should enjoy some basic rights in this realm. Govern how private entities use this tech and data. Regulate official use so it’s not abused, etc.

https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology/surveillance-...

Awesome. I’d like them to spend their high powered lawyers here and at least drive the conversation and influence legislation. This is more than just abstract theory where it might affect a few thousand. This affects every citizen.

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

#37

I don't understand how this could be realistically regulated. It's passive technology and its use can't be detected. It's like trying to stop people from thinking.

A lot of criminal acts aren't immediately detectable. But legal systems are set up to allow discovery of normally private documents or other evidence to see if anything illegal took place.

Also, the very act of having it on the books could discourage usage.

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

#38
post #32

Governments are the first in the line to abuse facial recognition. Now as CCTV cams are everywhere, everybody should have a right to wear a mask everywhere without getting discriminated.

> everybody should have a right to wear a mask everywhere without getting discriminated. It's a losing game. They will track you with your mask on from the moment you leave your house, your phone, your credit card, your gait, your car... It's like a super cookie, if you don't delete all the 10 places it was stored, a single missed one will be enough to regenerate it. Total citizen surveillance is coming, everyone's l…

>Total citizen surveillance is coming, everyone's location history will be in a database and kept for years, just like phone call metadata.

I am under the assumption that it's already here since whoever carries a mobile phone is already under surveillance since the mobile networks share info with the government, the license plate readers see who is traveling on the roads, and electronic financial records show your transactions.

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

#39
This is really interesting and I agree, but I think only addressing facial recognition is missing the forest for a tree.

There is an underlying idea here of a person owning information about themselves and having control over it and making sure a company can not use it inappropriately. I think addressing it as only 'facial recognition' wouldn't go far enough.

Re: Facial recognition: It’s time for action

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post #32

Governments are the first in the line to abuse facial recognition. Now as CCTV cams are everywhere, everybody should have a right to wear a mask everywhere without getting discriminated.

> everybody should have a right to wear a mask everywhere without getting discriminated. It's a losing game. They will track you with your mask on from the moment you leave your house, your phone, your credit card, your gait, your car... It's like a super cookie, if you don't delete all the 10 places it was stored, a single missed one will be enough to regenerate it. Total citizen surveillance is coming, everyone's l…

Nevertheless, when somebody has stolen my bike from a bike parking (where there were no other bikes and no crowd) right under a security camera near a fancy shopping centre the police couldn't find it, miraculously they couldn't even find it on the camera record like if both the bike and the thief were invisible.
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