i don't use yelp. it's a terrible service.
Ask HN: Dontrecruit.me – A website to collect stories about bad recruiters
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#32"They Insisted to know my current salary"
"They refused to talk about compensation"
Working outside of the USA, these two are kind of weird. When I am hiring someone, I want to know their current salary to know that I won't offer them a low salary + benefits package.
I have ranges depending on positions, and if after evaluating someone she falls into the "mid level" category, I want to make sure that their expectations are in line with the level... otherwise I just cannot hire them.
So, people want to talk about compensation but they don't want to have a conversation (which is 2 ways). Or how does it work in the USA?
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#33I am green to working with recruiters. What should I watch for? I already do not like the experience but I don't know if that's a problem with me or them.
All recruiters are sales people... not all of them are awful, but there's a large amount of fairly terrible. My two lookouts are the usual high-pressure sales tactics and recruiters that try to be "buddies" with you.
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#34I wish recruiters could harass me with job offers... some have it all :)
Somehow my email address became associated with someone else's resume on Monster.com (which I haven't been to in more than fifteen years, but apparently it still exists) and now I regularly get email inquiries for process engineering jobs in factories in small towns in the midwest.
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#35I get a lot of poor recruitment pitches, I could go on for hours about this.
Best ones are "looking for a $TECH ninja/pirate/spaceman", yada yada, they have a ping-pong table, lunch etc.
No mention of salary range. Not one. Like I'm doing this purely because I enjoy it (I do, but that's beside the point)!
Why the heck would I apply for a job that doesn't pay?
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#36I particularly love recruiters who insist that you send them a resume in MS Word format, so that they can remove your contact details and stick their agency's ugly letterhead on top (or "improve" your resume for you if they're particularly unethical). "I'll need your resume in Word Format." "I can give you a PDF" "Give me the original in Word Format." "There is no original in Word Format, I wrote my resume in LaTeX.…
I've had recruiters copy and paste the text from my nicely-formatted PDF into a Word document after I refused to give them an editable copy.
I no longer deal with recruiters if I can help it, but if I find myself using them again I'd consider offering to add their logo onto my CV myself to avoid them butchering it.
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#37I get a lot of poor recruitment pitches, I could go on for hours about this. Best ones are "looking for a $TECH ninja/pirate/spaceman", yada yada, they have a ping-pong table, lunch etc. No mention of salary range. Not one. Like I'm doing this purely because I enjoy it (I do, but that's beside the point)! Why the heck would I apply for a job that doesn't pay?
What do you mean? You can't pay your mortgage with "great company ethos" or "free beers on Friday"?
Re: Ask HN: Dontrecruit.me – A website to collect stories about bad recruiters
#38"They Insisted to know my current salary" "They refused to talk about compensation" Working outside of the USA, these two are kind of weird. When I am hiring someone, I want to know their current salary to know that I won't offer them a low salary + benefits package. I have ranges depending on positions, and if after evaluating someone she falls into the "mid level" category, I want to make sure that their expectatio…
Because it's irrelevant what the person currently makes. It only matters what the company is willing to pay for the work they are hiring for. Requiring the applicant to tell their current salary is only useful as a means of salary deflation.
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#39I am green to working with recruiters. What should I watch for? I already do not like the experience but I don't know if that's a problem with me or them.
- Recuiters aren't your friends, they're salespeople, selling you.
- Don't stick your CV on a job board, there's no expiry and recuiters will call up wondering if you're still unemployed three years later.
- Never answer "how much are you currently on?". You should always say "I'm looking for $X" - feel free to give a range, but keep the ball in your court. Check glassdoor/linkedin to make sure you're not blagging for an unreasonable figure.
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#40Why do recruiters insist on phone calls for everything? Why can't they just send an email? I can't get on the phone while I'm at my job to talk to you about some other job.
Wait until you run into recruiters that insist on meeting during business hours - or even at the candidate’s current job! - before doing any business.
I've had a recruiter literally call up the office of my (at-the-time) current job to ask if I was looking for a new job. After politely rejecting them, they continue by asking if any of my colleagues were looking for a new job. These recruiters are aggressive!